We’re bombing Syria

[Ricster]

Wtf is wrong with that?

On second thoughts, don't bother answering.

There are many covert operations, and the point I was trying to make is the public is being denied basic information

 

[SWP's back]

There are many covert operations, and the point I was trying to make is the public is being denied basic information

It’s a fucking phone call and the government published the details of it.

So it wasn’t an operation, covert or not.

No one was denied knowledge of the call.

 

[inbetween]

Just another piece in the jigsaw. Thats all. Im just putting all the information that i feel is warranted to give a view that western MSM dont give.

Its like the fighting in Southern Syria, Hadar, and the lack of reports from mainstream sites reporting that Israel and Al Qaeda attacking these villagers and destroying their farms causing food shortages and economic concerns for the area.

And for those people that have lost family members because of Edrogans support for jihadists im pretty sure they would find it newsworthy.

May thinks congratulating a dictator, in a rigged election, where some schools have been burnt down so votes couldnt be counted, is very concerning. I thought democracy was against these kind of elections?

I thought these were the reasons we try to bring peace to other countries?

Is it not part of the reason so many people have spoken out about rigged elections in Russia, NK and other countries.

But cos Turkey is an ally to the UK we should turn a blind eye to it all again?

Another example of how fucked up our foreign policy is.

Where were the same protests when Putin was re-elected?

 

[west didsblue]

There are many covert operations, and the point I was trying to make is the public is being denied basic information

Do you know what covert means?

 

[Ricster]

Yesterday Parliment gave some interesting answers on the Middle East and Syria in particular.

https://www.parliament.uk/business/...s/written-question/Commons/2018-03-21/133664/

The link shows that we as a nation have spent £32m on Syrian Opposition Forces from 2011-2017.

2011? Please note the start date.

Also the government refers to Jaish al-Islam and Ahrar al-Sham as moderates who have benefited from the funding.

 

[west didsblue]

Yesterday Parliment gave some interesting answers on the Middle East and Syria in particular.

https://www.parliament.uk/business/...s/written-question/Commons/2018-03-21/133664/

The link shows that we as a nation have spent £32m on Syrian Opposition Forces from 2011-2017.

2011? Please note the start date.

Also the government refers to Jaish al-Islam and Ahrar al-Sham as moderates who have benefited from the funding.

Why are you making stuff up? If you read the answer it says absolutely nothing about Jaish al-Islam and Ahrar al-Sham.

 

[SWP's back]

Yesterday Parliment gave some interesting answers on the Middle East and Syria in particular.

https://www.parliament.uk/business/...s/written-question/Commons/2018-03-21/133664/

The link shows that we as a nation have spent £32m on Syrian Opposition Forces from 2011-2017.

2011? Please note the start date.

Also the government refers to Jaish al-Islam and Ahrar al-Sham as moderates who have benefited from the funding.

Yes 2011, when the civil war started.

The government does not refer to Jaish al-Islam or Ahrar al-Sham at all.

 

[blueinsa]

Why are you making stuff up?

You need to ask?

He has been fucking radicalised thats why.

 

[Ricster]

You need to ask?

He has been fucking radicalised thats why.

Not at all. Just cant post links cos they're not allowed unless theyre from a US or UK source

 

[SWP's back]

Not at all. Just cant post links cos they're not allowed unless theyre from a US or UK source

That’s not true in the slightest.

You also didn’t answer as to why you lied about what the government said in their answer.

 

[Ricster]

That’s not true in the slightest.

You also didn’t answer as to why you lied about what the government said in their answer.

Because it isnt admitted means I've lied? I haven't.

Also, you and your cohorts have had me properly disabled on this board. I have attempted to take this to PM with you and again yesterday offered PMs again. Again you chose to ignore. Im not asking for you to reply but if you took 30 secs you may get something out of it. The fact i have continued to follow board rules to try and speak to you shows which one of us is following what admin want.

Please stop derailing threads in attempt to stop them or have them removed.

 

[Ricster]

I wonder if this will make a difference to you but here you go. Best source i can find for you @SWP's back and @west didsblue

I dont make stuff up.

"In November 2013, seven Islamist groups - Harakat Ahrar al-Sham al-Islamiyya, Jaysh al-Islam, Suqour al-Sham, Liwa al-Tawhid, Liwa al-Haqq, Ansar al-Sham and the Kurdish Islamic Front - declared that they were forming the largest rebel alliance yet in the 33-month conflict, with an estimated 45,000 fighters. They said the new Islamic Front was an "independent political, military and social formation" that aimed to "topple the Assad regime completely and build an Islamic state". They outlined a new command structure, with key roles shared between the seven groups, and said they would work towards a "gradual merger"."

Link isnt working
BBC,
World

Middle East

Guide to the Syrian rebels

• 13 December 2013

 

[blueinsa]

Also, you and your cohorts have had me properly disabled on this board.

This is a downright lie and nothing but mod bashing.

No one is silencing you, no one but a vast majority are challenging your opinions.

If you can't handle that then maybe think about posting your opinions in the first place but stop with the victim mentality because it's fucking boring, untrue and unfair.

 

[Ricster]

This is a downright lie and nothing but mod bashing.

No one is silencing you, no one but a vast majority are challenging your opinions.

If you can't handle that then maybe think about posting your opinions in the first place but stop with the victim mentality because it's fucking boring, untrue and unfair.

Im not bashing mods. I think you need to message Ric about a discussion we had and what i promised. Its not mod bashing its called honesty.

 

[Ricster]

This is a downright lie and nothing but mod bashing.

No one is silencing you, no one but a vast majority are challenging your opinions.

If you can't handle that then maybe think about posting your opinions in the first place but stop with the victim mentality because it's fucking boring, untrue and unfair.

So i put a link up after you 3 rounding on me showing both groups being part of the FSA and you still go on about my opinions?

So it didn't really matter about any links cos you werent going to believe it anyway. Ok

 

[blueinsa]

So i put a link up after you 3 rounding on me showing both groups being part of the FSA and you still go on about my opinions?

So it didn't really matter about any links cos you werent going to believe it anyway. Ok

We are challenging your opinions.

What's with your hang up about links? Do you think they prove without doubt your opinion above all others?

You are in a debate yet feel hard done by when others debate with you?

 

[Ricster]

We are challenging your opinions.

What's with your hang up about links? Do you think they prove without doubt your opinion above all others?

You are in a debate yet feel hard done by when others debate with you?

You said i was radicalised cos of my factual information.

Thats not a debate, thats an insult.

 

[blueinsa]

You said i was radicalised cos of my factual information.

Thats not a debate, thats an insult.

I dont believe much of what you say is factual and yes, i think you have in some way become radicalised against western governments and i say that after reading your many posts.

Its my opinion.

I'm sorry if you are offended by it but it wont change it.

 

[Ricster]

I dont believe much of what you say is factual and yes, i think you have in some way become radicalised against western governments and i say that after reading your many posts.

Its my opinion.

I'm sorry if you are offended by it but it wont change it.

In that PM i sent you about 30 mins ago, 2hat did it say about Assad? It wasnt positive was it?
I have a problem with our current government because of these proxy wars, also the Saudi's and Trump. I believe in staying in the EU as i think leaving only benefits a small amount of UK people.
I dont know a lot about Macron, had reservations cos he was a banker, but from what i can tell about public opinion, its not as bad as first feared.
Merkel again i dont know much, but she gains more respect from me than say May or Blair.
Im a Corbyn supporter which he is the leader of a western political party. Also voted Tory my first ever vote......cos i didnt have a clue.

Anyway enough of me explaining myself and back to the bbc page which lists those 2 groups as part of FSA.

 

[SWP's back]

Because it isnt admitted means I've lied? I haven't.

You lied when you stated the government said they consider those two groups to be moderate. Your link did not say that at all.

I wonder if this will make a difference to you but here you go. Best source i can find for you @SWP's back and @west didsblue

I dont make stuff up.

"In November 2013, seven Islamist groups - Harakat Ahrar al-Sham al-Islamiyya, Jaysh al-Islam, Suqour al-Sham, Liwa al-Tawhid, Liwa al-Haqq, Ansar al-Sham and the Kurdish Islamic Front - declared that they were forming the largest rebel alliance yet in the 33-month conflict, with an estimated 45,000 fighters. They said the new Islamic Front was an "independent political, military and social formation" that aimed to "topple the Assad regime completely and build an Islamic state". They outlined a new command structure, with key roles shared between the seven groups, and said they would work towards a "gradual merger"."

Link isnt working
BBC,
World

Middle East

Guide to the Syrian rebels

• 13 December 2013

No issue with that but that story doesn’t state the U.K. government were funding them (for medical supplies etc)

So i put a link up after you 3 rounding on me showing both groups being part of the FSA and you still go on about my opinions?

So it didn't really matter about any links cos you werent going to believe it anyway. Ok

No one says they aren’t part of the FSA.

You said i was radicalised cos of my factual information.

Thats not a debate, thats an insult.

No, you said the government admitted funding those two groups and called them moderates. They didn’t say that in their answer.