Jorginho

[riley347]

Should we not just look elsewhere then, if Napoli are fucking about??

 

[MarsLlama]

Should we not just look elsewhere then, if Napoli are fucking about??

He’s clearly our top target and the best option currently on the market. If we moved on every time a club tried to squeeze a few extra million out of us we’d never get anywhere.

 

[MarsLlama]

Only my opinion but I dont think our management care two hoots whether Chelsea enter the fray or not. If he does go to chelsea we have avoided a bullet because he wasn't committed enough to join City if he does join City it shows he is committed and we end up with a fully focused player.

While this is a lovely idea in reality it seems very unlikely that any top director of football would actually think that way. I’m sure we’d rather have a top player who wouldn’t mind moving to Chelsea (which isn’t a bad place to play by any account) than a second-rate one who insists on only joining us.

Let’s say that Jorginho gets nervous as the deadline approaches and decides that waiting for a club that may or may not end up paying the fee is too much of a risk. Instead he goes to Chelsea who are happy to pay a few million extra for his services. Then what?

They get a top player and we’ll have to find someone else to sign, meaning we’ll end up with someone who isn’t nearly at his level. It’s not worth it at all. And for what it’s worth, I feel that scenario did come true, I don’t think Jorginho’s acted unreasonably or wrongly. If we miss out on him it’ll be entirely our fault and we’ll probably be made to regret it.

 

[80s Shorts]

I find it really bizarre that people can be so negative towards people who have given us so much. Perhaps it's because I grew up in Moss Side, when neither the club or my family had a pot to piss in.

Excuse me. We all had pots to piss in in Moss Side. We may have had to share them sometimes but we all had them.

 

[nmc]

Like I said I blamed txiki because he has the biggest input in these transfers and I'll say it again I don't care if I'm wrong about it being txiki it could be anyone I just don't want this to happen again. Alves has a last min change of heart yeah but if we ran that risk by not signing him first then letting him leave on holiday. And again with Sanchez we ran the risk of another club signing him by telling him to wait and it happened. our transfer team brought us many great players but they make mistakes sometimes as well.
With Jorginho I don't know what could have went wrong if it doesn't happen but I still think it's inexcusable to be chasing a player for two months only for him to go to a weaker club.
By slow and complacent I'm referring to us being so assured that the player only wants us when they tell us they want to join then run the risk of him going elsewhere and it backfires sometimes. Sometimes you have to minimize as much risk as possible.

Simple fact is Txiki (or anyone else for that matter) can’t make players sign for us. As convincing as we think the project is - clearly some players are only interested in hard cash.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Excuse me. We all had pots to piss in in Moss Side. We may have had to share them sometimes but we all had them.

Unless you were posh Moss and had an outside toilet in the backyard air raid shelter;)

 

[80s Shorts]

Unless you were posh Moss and had an outside toilet in the backyard air raid shelter;)

Haha. A choice of braving the freezing cold, dark, spiders and god knows what else ran through my mind as a kid then it was always better to pee in the pot at night in winter.

 

[MillionDollarDream]

All of Napoli’s players + Carlo have gone to their training location for pre season. Jorginho is staying back in Brazil until his transfer, wherever that might be.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Like I said I blamed txiki because he has the biggest input in these transfers and I'll say it again I don't care if I'm wrong about it being txiki it could be anyone I just don't want this to happen again. Alves has a last min change of heart yeah but if we ran that risk by not signing him first then letting him leave on holiday. And again with Sanchez we ran the risk of another club signing him by telling him to wait and it happened. our transfer team brought us many great players but they make mistakes sometimes as well.
With Jorginho I don't know what could have went wrong if it doesn't happen but I still think it's inexcusable to be chasing a player for two months only for him to go to a weaker club.
By slow and complacent I'm referring to us being so assured that the player only wants us when they tell us they want to join then run the risk of him going elsewhere and it backfires sometimes. Sometimes you have to minimize as much risk as possible.

We could always make the player sign at gunpoint. FFS you are truly unreal.

 

[BlueDeadHead]

Like I said I blamed txiki because he has the biggest input in these transfers and I'll say it again I don't care if I'm wrong about it being txiki it could be anyone I just don't want this to happen again. Alves has a last min change of heart yeah but if we ran that risk by not signing him first then letting him leave on holiday. And again with Sanchez we ran the risk of another club signing him by telling him to wait and it happened. our transfer team brought us many great players but they make mistakes sometimes as well.
With Jorginho I don't know what could have went wrong if it doesn't happen but I still think it's inexcusable to be chasing a player for two months only for him to go to a weaker club.
By slow and complacent I'm referring to us being so assured that the player only wants us when they tell us they want to join then run the risk of him going elsewhere and it backfires sometimes. Sometimes you have to minimize as much risk as possible.

Do you regret not signing Alves and Sanchez. I certainly don't. Both players agreed to come here and then changed their minds (the first because of his wife/Neymar and the second because of money). Both choices indicate to me that they are not good fits for the squad. To me the system works. We agree a fair deal with a player that wants to come here. If after that they decide to look elsewhere we move on and get a player that is as good or better (e.g. Danilo).

IF this deal falls through it will be down to JORGINHO. IF he says yes to Chelsea that is his problem...not ours. I would happily have Kovacic if Jorginho decides he doesn't want to play for Pep.

 

[Cobwebcat]

If the Chelsea stories are true then Napoli planned this from the start and we couldn’t have known. They have strung this out so long it could be that they we were waiting for Sarri all along.

It seemed like an agreement was reached a few days ago so it’s strange that there is STILL no signature unless that was all an invention too.

Napoli are shrewd negotiators. I just hope it’s bullshit....usually is.

 

[MillionDollarDream]

If Napoli wanted to be nice and gift Sarri and Chelsea one of their top talents they wouldn’t be looking to extort them for €16M more than the release clause or suggesting he also sign some sort of gentleman’s agreement to not target other top talents from the squad.

 

[cityzennn93:20]

We could always make the player sign at gunpoint. FFS you are truly unreal.

When did I say let's force players to join ? I said we should try to minimizes unnecessary risks in order to sign the player as soon as possible before giving other clubs a chance to change their mind. What's wrong in that ?

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

When did I say let's force players to join ? I said we should try to minimizes unnecessary risks in order to sign the player as soon as possible before giving other clubs a chance to change their mind. What's wrong in that ?

Because you know absolutely nothing of how our transfer negotiations are carried out or of the complexity of those negotiations.

And how do you know that we don't minimise unnecessary risks in order to sign the player as soon as possible ?

And if the player's mind is changed by the offers from other clubs, it only shows that the player wasn't sufficiently committed to signing for us. That being the case then the club will move on to sign somebody who meets the requirements of our management team and who does want to sign for us.

Which bit of the above are you failing to understand ?

 

[cityzennn93:20]

Because you know absolutely nothing of how our transfer negotiations are carried out or of the complexity of those negotiations.

And how do you know that we don't minimise unnecessary risks in order to sign the player as soon as possible ?

And if the player's mind is changed by the offers from other clubs, it only shows that the player wasn't sufficiently committed to signing for us. That being the case then the club will move on to sign somebody who meets the requirements of our management team and who does want to sign for us.

Which bit of the above are you failing to understand ?

let me ask you do you think having a player agreed and the contract done Instead of signing him then letting him leave we let him have a 2 week holiday giving other clubs a chance to sign him. Or not willing to pay a smaller fee and telling the player to wait till the summer giving other clubs the chance to sign him. Don't u think we could've done better ?

Your looking at in a really black and white way a player can be fully committed but if depend on that and try to use it to our advantage in negotiations then take too long he could get fed up and he and the club agree a deal with another club. None of these players are city fans they see us as a good opportunity but if another one comes they will be open to it.

Ofcourse we don't know how complex transfers can be or how simple they can be each case is different but just because of that it doesn't make the club immune to any criticism other wise we can't critisize anything about the club.

 

[Franknorgrovesnephew]

Conte brother saying he is staying at Chelsea for one more season so very much doubt jorginho going to give up such a big chance on joining us a on a maybe his old boss may get the job at the last minute.

 

[blueinsa]

Ofcourse we don't know how complex transfers can be or how simple they can be each case is different but just because of that it doesn't make the club immune to any criticism other wise we can't critisize anything about the club.

So wait for something to go wrong before you criticise yes?

 

[CC1]

let me ask you do you think having a player agreed and the contract done Instead of signing him then letting him leave we let him have a 2 week holiday giving other clubs a chance to sign him. Or not willing to pay a smaller fee and telling the player to wait till the summer giving other clubs the chance to sign him. Don't u think we could've done better ?

Your looking at in a really black and white way a player can be fully committed but if depend on that and try to use it to our advantage in negotiations then take too long he could get fed up and he and the club agree a deal with another club. None of these players are city fans they see us as a good opportunity but if another one comes they will be open to it.

Ofcourse we don't know how complex transfers can be or how simple they can be each case is different but just because of that it doesn't make the club immune to any criticism other wise we can't critisize anything about the club.

Please knock it on the head. You don’t know what’s happening or why. It’s getting tedious trying to get you to understand that things don’t work the way you want them to. Stop believing every report you read.

3 league titles in 6 years: league cups; record breakers in almost every aspect of premier league football. I really think our management know better than you.

 

[chesterguy]

let me ask you do you think having a player agreed and the contract done Instead of signing him then letting him leave we let him have a 2 week holiday giving other clubs a chance to sign him. Or not willing to pay a smaller fee and telling the player to wait till the summer giving other clubs the chance to sign him. Don't u think we could've done better ?

Your looking at in a really black and white way a player can be fully committed but if depend on that and try to use it to our advantage in negotiations then take too long he could get fed up and he and the club agree a deal with another club. None of these players are city fans they see us as a good opportunity but if another one comes they will be open to it.

Ofcourse we don't know how complex transfers can be or how simple they can be each case is different but just because of that it doesn't make the club immune to any criticism other wise we can't critisize anything about the club.

Who do you work for Man City, Napoli or maybe Jorginho's agent? Or are you just a Mr No Nothing who reads News Now and picks out news reports, reads them as gospel and then regurgitates them on here as facts

Unless you do work for the aforementioned then you have absolutely no idea who we want to sign, how the negotiations, if any, are conducted and what the state of those negotiations, if any, are at therefore to criticise any one party in those negotiations, if any, shows you to be a complete and utter numpty

 

[Neville Kneville]

Very few players in the world won’t get nervous after what is now about two months of transfer negotiations. They want to make sure they get their move to the next level and they’re entitled to wonder if it’s worth the risk waiting for us. That’s human nature and it doesn’t mean they don’t want us.

He hasn't been waiting for 'a' move.

He's been looking forward to moving to City. Sanchez would have got his move. Alves would have got his move. Mahrez will get his move & Jorginho will get his, if they play along.

If suddenly they see something else they fancy, they won't have to ask us to hurry up as City will tell them to fuck right off & we won't miss either.

It would be their loss.