Jorginho

[Centurions]

There's so much bad logic in here it's painful.

"We have the same 1st 11." - Except it's weaker, it's older, a bunch of key players have had shorter offseasons. Weaker in what way? Losing Yaya? Sane is 22 now and Sterling 23, yeah, age is a problem. Every two years they have shorter pre-seasons, what's new?

"Add Mahrez remove Yaya and we are better." - That's not how it works. You can't just keep removing defensive midfielders for wingers and pretend you're better. Yaya just took up a spot, Mahrez isn't a straight swap obviously but he gives us another option up front. Looks like an improvement to me.

 

[93.01]

What about the big and daft at Lazio?

Nice player. I rate him but he strikes me as less mobile than jorghinio. Further on watching him he seems to prefer playing quite high up the pitch. What has not helped is the lack of clarity about the kind of player we are after alongside what the fans are expecting he will do. I lt feels certain that City have been looking for a deep lying playmaker, pivot call it what you like. The problem is that whilst jorghino fit that profile. I think he lacks the mobility and agression fern brought when carrying out the role last season carrying out the role, which can't be dismissed as it was a significant factor which allowed us to dominate the league. The problem is that if it's a DM the fans would like to see in that pivot, your likely to lose something from a playmaker perspective. If it's a deep lying play maker like jorghino the fans would like to see in the pivot, your likely to lose something defensively. I guess this is the conundrum City need to solve.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

Not arsed, he can go where he wants. Pep will have another in mind that he can make better for the team

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I continue to feel John Stones would make the perfect defensive midfielder, but whether Pep could teach him.

 

[blueyorkie]

I don't think it would be the worst thing if we didn't sign any of them, we have a lad in the squad who has a good engine, massive desire, likes a tackle and proved to be versatile, Fabian Delph!

 

[JimmyGrimble10]

Kovacic
Milkinovic Slavic
Serri
Lemina
Thiago
Weigl

Only realistic options and how many can actually play in that position.

 

[Centurions]

Couldn’t really give a shit about the player but it’s a worry that we take weeks to agree deals but Chelsea have done this between Monday and today? Obviously a very different way of operating

You can't honestly believe that Napoli and Chelsea only made contact on Monday?

 

[Pigeonho]

There's two versions of that ADL quote now, one saying Chelsea offered Napoli and the player more than City did. This sounds much more like the truth

Don’t you mean it’s more like the truth so you can tell yourself he chose money over glory? I don’t like London, but it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that he or his wife prefer that location. Add to that the fact his current manager is also moving there. Chelsea are a pull. For whatever reason it is, London seems to be too. We don’t have divine right to players just because we’ve started to win things

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

I continue to feel John Stones would make the perfect defensive midfielder, but whether Pep could teach him.

He Could, but that's why he's so good as a centre back for us. He'll be number 1 at the back after the world cup

 

[domalino]

Weaker in what way? Losing Yaya? Sane is 22 now and Sterling 23, yeah, age is a problem. Every two years they have shorter pre-seasons, what's new?

Weaker because our only defensive midfielder is now 33 and had no rest - the same midfielder who took 6 months break from playing well in 2014 because he was knackered after the last world cup.


We've gone from a fresh 32 year old fresh Fernandinho with old Yaya as an emergency to....33 year old knackered Fernandinho with no cover.

There is no way you can spin that into being better. A replacement is obviously needed - hence why Pep wanted Jorginho for £60m in the first place.

 

[jrb]

Red Cafe loving this.

Just like they did when they signed Sanchez.

The rest is history.

Let him and his family have money, London and nothing else.

We move on. We will buy another player. And as Pep does, he will make him into a better player.

 

[balotelli's back pocket]

Frenkie De Jong?

 

[jrb]

Weaker because our only defensive midfielder is now 33 and had no preseason.

We've gone from a fresh 32 year old Fernandinho with old Yaya as an emergency to....33 year old knackered Fernandinho with no cover.

There is no way you can spin that into being better.

Knackered?!

F*** off, knee jerk reaction fan.

If f***ing hate City fans like you. You obviously have a short and ungrateful memory.

 

[domalino]

Knackered?!

F*** off, knee jerk reaction fan.

If f***ing hate City fans like you. You obviously have a short and ungrateful memory.

Yes knackered as in exhausted, extremely tired. As in, 33 years old, played 50 games this season and hasn't had a summer break.

Also there's no fucking point in putting asterisks in your swearwords, your mum isn't looking.

 

[Heart.net]

Weaker because our only defensive midfielder is now 33 and had no rest - the same midfielder who took 6 months break from playing well in 2014 because he was knackered after the last world cup.


We've gone from a fresh 32 year old fresh Fernandinho with old Yaya as an emergency to....33 year old knackered Fernandinho with no cover.

There is no way you can spin that into being better. A replacement is obviously needed - hence why Pep wanted Jorginho for £60m in the first place.

+1

 

[abu13]

Some people get way too worked up when a transfer falls down, I wanted him as much as the next fan but he has decided to go to London under a manager he knows well. we will identify an alternative and go from there, we have 4 weeks to go yet so no need to panic yet.

 

[LIBlue]

I continue to feel John Stones would make the perfect defensive midfielder, but whether Pep could teach him.

But he’s been solid in defense this wc and do you think pep would risk losing that?

 

[bellsouth]

Don’t you mean it’s more like the truth so you can tell yourself he chose money over glory? I don’t like London, but it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that he or his wife prefer that location. Add to that the fact his current manager is also moving there. Chelsea are a pull. For whatever reason it is, London seems to be too. We don’t have divine right to players just because we’ve started to win things

No you misunderstand me, I mean that it sounds like Chelsea offered more to Napoli (probably for both Sarri and Jorginho) - not that that player chose anything over anything.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Knackered?!

F*** off, knee jerk reaction fan.

If f***ing hate City fans like you. You obviously have a short and ungrateful memory.

Whooaah...

WTF?

Fernandinho is clearly knackered, as he would be, having played football continuously for two years.

As for Sad Cafe, there's no need to run off to see what they think, the penny hasn't even dropped yet that Jorginho going to Chelsea just makes United making top four all the more difficult.

 

[BigOscar]

Always seemed like Napoli were just playing for time, knowing that they were going to "sell" Sarri to Chelsea so they were obviously never going to sell Jorginho to us before the rival bidder came in, unless we offered way over the odds. At the end of the day, we had a price we wanted to pay and they've gotten a much bigger bid, so we've walked away. Just like Sanchez, and just like Sanchez I think it'll be the right decision.

I'd really be testing Wolves resolve for Ruben Neves tbh, offering Zinchenko plus big money. He's got everything to play that position for us and also has proven to have the physicality needed to play that position over here