This Cesspit of a City

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I think it’s the Piccadilly area that’s worse than most places in town. Unfortunately it’s the first impression many get of the place if they arrive by bus or train.
 
Pick up a piece of someone else’s rubbish and put it in the bin. I dare you. I have and will.

On a side note, my iOS suggested ‘rag’ for bin. Technology eh.
 
Failsworth was nice when I lived there. I popped in the local opposite my house for one to suss the place out and ended up staying all night. Everyone really friendly and welcoming.

I’ve got a love hate relationship with Manchester. Always have had. Longsight in particular was dreadful. We were students and complete outcasts in the area. Nobody would talk to us.
 
This is possibly the most depressing thread I’ve ever read on Bluemoon. Basic lack of respect for fellow man (and self), the community, and the environment is appalling. Hope that something drastic changes.
 
SkyBlueTX said:
This is possibly the most depressing thread I’ve ever read on Bluemoon. Basic lack of respect for fellow man (and self), the community, and the environment is appalling. Hope that something drastic changes.
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There is definitely less dog shit on the pavements than there used to be though. Perhaps cos we're so feral we started eating the dogs.

Always less than Paris btw
 
SkyBlueTX said:
This is possibly the most depressing thread I’ve ever read on Bluemoon. Basic lack of respect for fellow man (and self), the community, and the environment is appalling. Hope that something drastic changes.
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I apologise mate but it’s got to the point where it’s getting me down. I think I felt like I needed to spread the word, get it to be a talking point and hopefully action is taken as a result. Even if only twenty of us on here start being a bit more vigilant, picking up litter, cleaning our own pavements outside our houses and telling people off for littering... that might spread to five more each, and so on, you never know.

The city seems to be going backwards in this sense. I see great strides taking forward in the city centre for the increase in city living, more bars and restaurants, more things to do than ever... but more shit, more dirt and especially more litter and more homeless spicehead zombies. If we are getting investment to create these new buildings, we should be able to get investment in a cleaning and tidiness scheme for the city too. But it’s not just the city centre, it’s the suburbs too where fly tipping is a major issue and the state of the roads and pavements is at an all-time low. Again, if we are getting investment for new buildings, can we not get investment for the improvement of roads and pavements?

Manchester needs a proper deep clean and improvement of roads and pavements. Make finding investment for that the #1 priority of the city.

There is a ten year plan for the homeless problem, but I’ve heard nothing about the litter, fly tipping and cleanliness problem.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I apologise mate but it’s got to the point where it’s getting me down. I think I felt like I needed to spread the word, get it to be a talking point and hopefully action is taken as a result. Even if only twenty of us on here start being a bit more vigilant, picking up litter, cleaning our own pavements outside our houses and telling people off for littering... that might spread to five more each, and so on, you never know.

The city seems to be going backwards in this sense. I see great strides taking forward in the city centre for the increase in city living, more bars and restaurants, more things to do than ever... but more shit, more dirt and especially more litter and more homeless spicehead zombies. If we are getting investment to create these new buildings, we should be able to get investment in a cleaning and tidiness scheme for the city too. But it’s not just the city centre, it’s the suburbs too where fly tipping is a major issue and the state of the roads and pavements is at an all-time low. Again, if we are getting investment for new buildings, can we not get investment for the improvement of roads and pavements?

Manchester needs a proper deep clean and improvement of roads and pavements. Make finding investment for that the #1 priority of the city.

There is a ten year plan for the homeless problem, but I’ve heard nothing about the litter, fly tipping and cleanliness problem.
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The fly tipping issue gets my goat as it's been created by, and can be easily rectified by, the fucking council. Charges for dropping a van load of rubbish or garden waste are ridiculous, hence white van man having to dump the shit he's left with after a job. I don't know the figures but i'm gonna guess and say the costs to the council for removing fly-tipped shit is higher than the revenue generated from fees taken at their recycle centres (dumps).

I'm glad you started this thread as i'd been ignoring the growing shit tip that my local park is turning into but know i have taken up the battle to get it sorted with renewed vigour. Got some neighbours onboard this week and have fired off some e-mithers as a group to the relevant people.
 
getting from 1 end of Market st to the other is like a fuckin assault course,paraffins everywhere you look,they don't even beg anymore its more of an entitled aggressive "any spare change" bark & then a totally disgusted look when you blank them,the racket is horrendous...like they're all trying to out do each other with the din they make...how has this been allowed to happen?
 
stonerblue said:
The fly tipping issue gets my goat as it's been created by, and can be easily rectified by, the fucking council. Charges for dropping a van load of rubbish or garden waste are ridiculous, hence white van man having to dump the shit he's left with after a job. I don't know the figures but i'm gonna guess and say the costs to the council for removing fly-tipped shit is higher than the revenue generated from fees taken at their recycle centres (dumps).

I'm glad you started this thread as i'd been ignoring the growing shit tip that my local park is turning into but know i have taken up the battle to get it sorted with renewed vigour. Got some neighbours onboard this week and have fired off some e-mithers as a group to the relevant people.
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I bet you’re right. It will cost the Council more to sort out the fly tipping, although it costs them nowt to leave it there!

Top man! My and a neighbour said we are going to get together and de-weed/de-litter/remove chewing gum from the street and the car park around our flats in the next few weeks. Going to literally start closest to home!

Imagine if there was a city-wide initiative to do that...
 
For me, in spite of the hard-on that many posters discernibly have for prison, apart from the most dangerous of offenders, it doesn’t work. Locking someone up in a building is essentially a Victorian notion that people blindly assume is the only effective way to deal with offenders. Why is it, with advances in technology, we can’t think of more creative and socially helpful means of punishing people and restricting their liberty?

There is clearly a huge social problem in this country around litter and waste. Not just in city centres, but also on verges next to all sorts of roads up and down the country. It’s shameful the way that otherwise law abiding people dispose of their litter. I frequently have the piss taken out if me for my car resembling a skip, but that’s partly because I refuse to dispose of waste otherwise than in a responsible fashion. I’m far from perfect in terms of my environmental impact because I consume large amount of foodstuffs and drinks that are packaged in plastic, but I refuse to dispose of that packaging in a way that is antisocial and inconsiderate.

It cannot be beyond the wit of man to engage offenders in a national programme with the purpose of cleaning up the litter from this country, with any offender unwilling to engage facing further restrictions on their liberty. This would go some way towards them genuinely make a real effort to repay a debt to society, something that simply sticking them in a cell manifestly fails to do. The technology is there to monitor this programme closely, it just needs the political will to see it through.
 
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cesspit now at Hilton hotel level
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
For me, in spite of the hard-on that many posters discernibly have for prison, apart from the most dangerous of offenders, it doesn’t work. Locking someone up in a building is essentially a Victorian notion that people blindly assume is the only effective way to deal with offenders. Why is it, with advances in technology, we can’t think of more creative and socially helpful means of punishing people and restricting their liberty?

There is clearly a huge social problem in this country around litter and waste. Not just in city centres, but also on verges next to all sorts of roads up and down the country. It’s shameful the way that otherwise law abiding people dispose of their litter. I frequently have the piss taken out if me for my car resembling a skip, but that’s partly because I refuse to dispose of waste otherwise than in a responsible fashion. I’m far from perfect in terms of my environmental impact because I consume large amount of foodstuffs and drinks that are packaged in plastic, but I refuse to dispose of that packaging in a way that is antisocial and inconsiderate.

It cannot be beyond the wit of man to engage offenders in a national programme with the purpose of cleaning up the litter from this country, with any offender unwilling to engage facing further restrictions on their liberty. This would go some way towards them genuinely make a real effort to repay a debt to society, something that simply sticking them in a cell manifestly fails to do. The technology is there to monitor this programme closely, it just needs the political will to see it through.
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All that waffle when in essence you want them to come and just clean your fucking car........
 
inchy14 said:
All that waffle when in essence you want them to come and just clean your fucking car........
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Not true. 42 years of supporting City has taught me the value of loyalty - to my local Albanian (non-people-trafficking, non-money-laundering) small enterprise. They always look after me and I wouldn't get my skip cleaned (every six months) anywhere else!
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Not true. 42 years of supporting City has taught me the value of loyalty - to my local Albanian (non-people-trafficking, non-money-laundering) small enterprise. They always look after me and I wouldn't get my skip cleaned (every six months) anywhere else!
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I just wait for rain now!! Can’t be arsed doing it myself.
 
its always been a bit of a shithole tbh. people especially who arent from here/ near say how nice manchester is and how its up and coming ,but they are only really talking about the swanky flats in the city centre and places like chorlton/ didsbury. most of manchester is very run down and full of poverty. my parents and most the people they know have all moved out. the city centre is full of druggies and alcoholics.

i can see a growing divide between rich professionals moving in and everybody else. kinda like london a little bit.
 
blue b4 the moon said:
Being serious the current issues around south Manchester aren't helped by the students buggering off to their parents leafy homes but in general it's a fucking pigsty and part of the reason along with people's attitudes that me & Mrs Moon are looking to move out of the area to wonderful, clean, polite, almost zero dickheads on the road Lincolnshire hopefully in the next 6/12 months.
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a lot of it isn't students. go through areas of longsight/rusholme for example and there is rubbish everywhere and the curry mile area in particular is scruffy as anything. its not welcoming or nice at all. it used to be great.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I bet you’re right. It will cost the Council more to sort out the fly tipping, although it costs them nowt to leave it there!

Top man! My and a neighbour said we are going to get together and de-weed/de-litter/remove chewing gum from the street and the car park around our flats in the next few weeks. Going to literally start closest to home!

Imagine if there was a city-wide initiative to do that...
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Its no solution (though admirable) in the long term, pretty soon people will get fed up or too busy to do it forever.
What is needed is better education and somehow a feeling of pride has to be instilled in the population, I was appalled at the amount of litter in the UK when I visited last year, and it got me wondering why people here in Oz dont chuck litter on the street.
I did notice that area's like the Cotswolds there were no litter, is it better education in area's like that ?
 
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