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What UEFA Coach attack Investigation?
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Pigeonho
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That’s like asking someone ballooning in a nightclub to kindly stop it. Doesn’t work and in this instance, isn’t worth the inevitable outcome. Tactics. Keep it as peaceful as possible, including not tempting fate. Wrong? Absolutely.Perhaps they could have asked them to get down ?
But why would they ?
As for the ones on the van. There would have been an actual riot if they’d been arrested.
They could identify and arrest them based on video footage, it didn't need to happen there and then.
Onholiday(somemightsay)
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Very well thought out post as usual - the above reads as a who's who of people I don't want to be associated with.Oh for fucks sake, here it is again. It wasn’t Liverpool fans, it was “a handful of idiots”.
Tell me.
Was it the same “handful of idiots” that bricked a City coach after the Hillsborough 25th anniversary game?
Was it the same “handful of idiots” that started on City fans at Lime Street after the same game?
Was it the same “handful of idiots” that caused the deaths of 39 Juventus fans in 1985?
Was it the same “handful of idiots” that dropped a concrete slab on a waiter’s head in Bulgaria?
Was it the same “handful of idiots” that made death threats against Steven Gerrard’s family when he considered moving to Chelsea?
Was it the same “handful of idiots” that cheered as Yaya Toure went off injured at Anfield?
Was it the same “handful of idiots” that booed Ederson as he received oxygen treatment and on-field treatment after a serious kick to the head
I could go on. The thing is, there is a sizeable element of Liverpool’s support for whom ‘feral scum’ is a pretty accurate description. Maybe thats not all Liverpool fans and maybe it isn’t even a majority. But what do either the club, Merseyside police or the wider fan base do about the scum element of their support? They do absolutely fuck all, that’s what. Take you for an example. You come on here spouting your shit about it being a few cans and a couple of bottles. Towing the party line, in fact. Actually, over 100 objects struck the city coach in about a 4 minute period. So you are either lying through your shithouse teeth, because you have seen the footage in full and you know it was a hell of a lot more than a few cans and a couple of bottles, or you don’t know personally and are repeating like a fucking mindless sheep the propaganda that your vile fucking club and your scum fan base have been peddling since April. So you are either a liar or a fool.
Also, what have you done personally to try to control the scum element of your fan base - you know, that “handful of idiots”? Have you for instance gone on RAWK denouncing them and asking all right thinking Liverpool fans to do likewise? Have you called in to Radio City to complain about this “handful of idiots” that regularly gives Liverpool a bad name? Have you written to the Echo to make these points?
No of course you haven’t. Because you’re a shithouse. And Liverpool football club has done nothing - literally not lifted a finger - to address these issues either, because it is a vile dishonest excuse of a club. Even Chelsea have done a lot to eradicate the knuckle dragging racist elements of their support. LFC have done fuck all, and they never will do.
This miserable lie that you peddle that the sub human scum that make up your support is just a handful of idiots, not a deep and ugly stain on the entire fan base, the club and the City, is why people say ‘it’s never your fault’. It isn’t Liverpool fans that smashed the pub after an away game, just a handful of idiots. It isn’t Liverpool fans that fought and looted their way round Europe in the 80s and 90s, just a handful of idiots. So it isn’t really your fault. Well, nothing ever is. And the next time Liverpool fans act like shithouses, as they so often do, it will just be a handful of idiots. Again.
So fuck off back to RAWK with your shit. I for one have heard it all before.
Certainly got around the fabled ''handful' haven't they? ;-)
Neville Kneville
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That’s like asking someone ballooning in a nightclub to kindly stop it. Doesn’t work and in this instance, isn’t worth the inevitable outcome. Tactics. Keep it as peaceful as possible, including not tempting fate. Wrong? Absolutely.
That's nonsense.
They are the police. "Get down" the bloke gets down. No problem.
But the police were part of it, so no reason to tell anyone to get down, they were probably laughing about it, just as they were on many occasions years ago as Liverpool fans routinely attacked small groups of City supporters including women children and old people, they are scum.
Pigeonho
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Each to their own. A highly volatile situation, which I’d say I’d exactly how the police saw it.That's nonsense.
They are the police. "Get down" the bloke gets down. No problem.
But the police were part of it, so no reason to tell anyone to get down, they were probably laughing about it, just as they were on many occasions years ago as Liverpool fans routinely attacked small groups of City supporters including women children and old people, they are scum.
Onholiday(somemightsay)
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Can't disagree with the above...........Think.
Can you image the outcry in Liverpool if City fans had attacked the Liverpool coach instead.
There would have been a public outcry in Liverpool. The Echo, Liverpool fan groups, we know all about them, LFC, ex-players, the lot.
And can you imagine the reception the City players and fans would have got in tbe return leg. It would have been bedlum.
Time and again when Liverpool play in Europe there is always trouble and incidents.
The Europa Cup final with Seville fans in Basel. The Seville Police in Seville(I went and didn't experience any problems with the Police) Istanbul, Athens, etc.
Yet when Liverpool fans went to Rome they were pleading and begging for Police protection.
Sadly there is a mentality amongst Liverpool fans that they can do what they want without fear of any repercussion. All you have to do is read some of the nonse they put on their banners. Their arrogrance is breathtaking.
You would think the penny would drop that the common denominator in those events is them
Each to their own. A highly volatile situation, which I’d say I’d exactly how the police saw it.
So why not arrest them after?
squirtyflower
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I really can’t believe a ‘blue’ is condoning the actions of the feral scum and inaction of a complicit police force.
Makes you fucking wonder...
Makes you fucking wonder...
Pigeonho
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A question only the scouse cops can answer.So why not arrest them after?
Do you really believe the police were in on this attack? And use the word attack extremely lightly.
So why not arrest them after?
How many Police officers would it have taken to arrest 20, 30, 40 of them? 2-4 for each prisoner, then double that to replace them on the cordons, then again to transport them. How many cells do you think Merseyside has? It really isn't that straightforward unfortunately.
cleavers
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Or nicked the first one to attempt to get up there ? As they would anywhere else in the world. I asked our scouse friend what would happen if you tried to do that on Friday night in the centre of liverpool, not surprisingly he didn't reply.Perhaps they could have asked them to get down ?
Pigeonho
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But if a unique situation though and nothing like a Friday night in the centre of Liverpool.Or nicked the first one to attempt to get up there ? As they would anywhere else in the world. I asked our scouse friend what would happen if you tried to do that on Friday night in the centre of liverpool, not surprisingly he didn't reply.
cleavers
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I assume the vans were there in case of a public order problem, and so available to respond quickly, how do you do that with 10 scrotes on the roof ?That’s like asking someone ballooning in a nightclub to kindly stop it. Doesn’t work and in this instance, isn’t worth the inevitable outcome. Tactics. Keep it as peaceful as possible, including not tempting fate. Wrong? Absolutely.
You are a clown at times.
A question only the scouse cops can answer.
Do you really believe the police were in on this attack? And use the word attack extremely lightly.
In on it? No. I do believe their incompetence helped facilitate it though and I also believe that it is a disgrace that not a single arrest was made with the amount of evidence available.
How many Police officers would it have taken to arrest 20, 30, 40 of them? 2-4 for each prisoner, then double that to replace them on the cordons, then again to transport them. How many cells do you think Merseyside has? It really isn't that straightforward unfortunately.
Did you see the word 'after' in my post?
My reply was more in general to others asking why arrests weren't made at the time.Did you see the word 'after' in my post?
After?, that would be more viable-no idea why this hasn't happened. Clear public order offences committed, and would send out the right message.
My reply was more in general to others asking why arrests weren't made at the time.
After?, that would be more viable-no idea why this hasn't happened. Clear public order offences committed, and would send out the right message.
Exactly, as things stand there is absolutely no detterent to this happening again and that is very wrong imo.
Perhaps we should use an open top bus if we have to go to Anfield again for one of their famous European nights.
Neville Kneville
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But if a unique situation though and nothing like a Friday night in the centre of Liverpool.
It's an easy situation to solve. Just by speaking. Tell them to get down they will get down. They are not going to kick off with the riot squad over that.
But seeing as they were all part of the same crew, no need to ask.
Pigeonho
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But harsh just for having an opinion.I assume the vans were there in case of a public order problem, and so available to respond quickly, how do you do that with 10 scrotes on the roof ?
You are a clown at times.
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