Leroy Sane - 2018/2019 performances

[sir baconface]

That's not what Kroos said though, he didn't say anything about ozils performances, he's done what the Bayern twats have also done and attacked ozil for saying he's been subject to racism. All the establishment white guys ganging up to attack the non-white guy for speaking out about racism isn't exactly a classy move in my book.

This racism thing is a bit selective. Presumably it’s OK to call Germans all the bastards under the sun because technically they’re not a race. And what’s this “all the white guys” bollocks?

 

[domalino]

That's not what Kroos said though, he didn't say anything about ozils performances, he's done what the Bayern twats have also done and attacked ozil for saying he's been subject to racism. All the establishment white guys ganging up to attack the non-white guy for speaking out about racism isn't exactly a classy move in my book.

The reason Kroos, like other players have denied racism in the team was actually explained by Oliver Bierfoff the other day.

He said they know that Ozil didn't say the team was racist, but that's what journalists are asking them every day, and when they get asked directly if there's racism in the side, they say no - which is what Ozil would also say as he was only referring to the executives.

I think If the press asked them about the DFB at large they might get different answers, but they'd rather focus on the team because they like the drama between the "bling bling gang" of ozil draxler and Boateng and the bavarians.

The Germans love all this internal drama bullshit, it's why Bayern is called FC Holywood.

 

[meeesh]

Not surprised you “don’t want to go on about it” after your utter humiliation on the Sterling contract thread.

I’d have let it ride if you hadn’t committed yet another fcukin stupid mistake of calling me “lad”.

Oh deary me,please understand the way I talk and were I'm from for fuck sake,and let what fucking ride ?

Humiliated,fucking don't make me laugh

 

[St.Pauli support]

German football is in crisis and the manager and Kross have put it there,hold their hands up a discuss that,no need to say anything more than he is welcomed back and hope he can help them,simple,leave the other stuff for behind closed doors,he was nothing to do with them being rank,step up senior players and take some responsibilty rather than throwing the kid under the bus

...is not correct. It was a balanced statement to 2 very direct questions, Kroos didn't want to boggle.
I get your point though and many in Germany would have preferred a non public way.

I have the feeling the German squad is about a "relaunch" including aggressivity and a sharp attitude.
City might be happy if Leroy was caught by such a spirit, if there is one. Let's see.

 

[sir baconface]

Oh deary me,please understand the way I talk and were I'm from for fuck sake,and let what fucking ride ?

Humiliated,fucking don't make me laugh

Then you need to adjust to the 21st century. “Lad”,”boy” and “love” went out with words like “coon”, “queer” and “Hush Puppies”.

And, by the way, you were outed and stitched up like a kipper. I’ll post a link if you press me.

 

[meeesh]

Then you need to adjust to the 21st century. “Lad”,”boy” and “love” went out with words like “coon”, “queer” and “Hush Puppies”.

And, by the way, you were outed and stitched up like a kipper. I’ll post a link if you press me.

What the fuck is this ? Why is your cage rattled ?

You come on here questioning me,I give you the answer,to which you don't respond to,and still haven't,so what is this with you ?

You also have a username of what we called the ex rag manager which doesn't make sense neither,so if you have a personal issue with me take it to a PM

 

[sir baconface]

What the fuck is this ? Why is your cage rattled ?

You come on here questioning me,I give you the answer,to which you don't respond to,and still haven't,so what is this with you ?

You also have a username of what we called the ex rag manager which doesn't make sense neither,so if you have a personal issue with me take it to a PM

I’m not in the least bit rattled and am entirely comfortable with my username, thank you. I don’t have a personal issue with you either.

You sound a little sensitive.

 

[meeesh]

I’m not in the least bit rattled and am entirely comfortable with my username, thank you. I don’t have a personal issue with you either.

You sound a little sensitive.

Not sensitive at all,as thick skinned as they come me,I'm still confused to see where the response is from the question you posed to me though.you asked me to take my time before I answered,you seem to be taking an age to come up with somert,(that means something by the way in case you don't understand).

You have swerved into a personal attack,which is belting, (that's good by the way if you don't understand)

 

[FantasyIreland]

Enough with the bickering,discuss the topic civilly or have the night off.

Ta very much :-)

 

[sir baconface]

Not sensitive at all,as thick skinned as they come me,I'm still confused to see where the response is from the question you posed to me though.you asked me to take my time before I answered,you seem to be taking an age to come up with somert,(that means something by the way in case you don't understand).

You have swerved into a personal attack,which is belting, (that's good by the way if you don't understand)

1/10. Because I’m feeling generous.

Whoops, sorry FI, I hadn’t spotted your post before responding. I’ll leave it there.

 

[domalino]

Only needed 7 minutes to show he should have started.

 

[caseball]

Woe betide any wurst-munching, goose stepping closet Nazi Kraut to pop above the parapet.

Surely you meant to post "stick his head up out of the trench."?

 

[Maldeika]

Only needed 7 minutes to show he should have started.

Why should he have? Does he ever put in a big defensive shift? This match today was not about showing flicks and tricks but the main tasks was to stabilize, control as much of the match and do not let the French team counterattack after easy mistakes. Sane came during a period when Germany in the last 20 minutes was in offensive mode and already had some very good chances that Ariola saved.

The offensives all put in big defensive shifts. It was not a match to show that you might win a dribble but to show workrate.

Nobody in Germany expected an offensive fireworks of Germany today. The biggest critic in Germany about the World Cup was that the players did not show enough passion. And the biggest problem was that we played offensive harakiri in Russia playing 3 offensive minded midfielders + 2 offensive minded fullbacks - what ended in not having defensive stability and at the same moment making it offensive toothless when dozens of crosses flew into the box and a lot shots from second row were done without trying various other more risky possibilities. This match was there to win new credit. We played a new midfield, too, with Kimmich as no. 6 and Goretzka in it.

Löw totally was right with not taking Sane to the World Cup. What you do in your club just is an entrance card to the National team - to stay there and to play you have to show up when necessary. And that is what Sane did not do. When it was about who of the two younger players gets the World Cup ticket no. 23 he lost to the one that showed a lot more motivation.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Why should he have? Does he ever put in a big defensive shift? This match today was not about showing flicks and tricks but the main tasks was to stabilize, control as much of the match and do not let the French team counterattack after easy mistakes. Sane came during a period when Germany in the last 20 minutes was in offensive mode and already had some very good chances that Ariola saved.

The offensives all put in big defensive shifts. It was not a match to show that you might win a dribble but to show workrate.

Nobody in Germany expected an offensive fireworks of Germany today. The biggest critic in Germany about the World Cup was that the players did not show enough passion. And the biggest problem was that we played offensive harakiri in Russia playing 3 offensive minded midfielders + 2 offensive minded fullbacks - what ended in not having defensive stability and at the same moment making it offensive toothless when dozens of crosses flew into the box and a lot shots from second row were done without trying various other more risky possibilities. This match was there to win new credit. We played a new midfield, too, with Kimmich as no. 6 and Goretzka in it.

Löw totally was right with not taking Sane to the World Cup. What you do in your club just is an entrance card to the National team - to stay there and to play you have to show up when necessary. And that is what Sane did not do. When it was about who of the two younger players gets the World Cup ticket no. 23 he lost to the one that showed a lot more motivation.

Did he turn Bayern down in favour of city?

 

[Neville Kneville]

Have you any proof to corroberate your claim that Sane is under more pressure? gen question

No,

But if anyone wants to argue that a 22 year old player, suddenly becoming the main topic of negative conversation, having his attitude questioned, by the world's press, on the night he comes back into the international fold, doesn't increase pressure, I'm not going to waste one second of my life pretending that opinion is worth intelligent discussion other than for the pure sake of having an argument.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Why should he have? Does he ever put in a big defensive shift? This match today was not about showing flicks and tricks but the main tasks was to stabilize, control as much of the match and do not let the French team counterattack after easy mistakes. Sane came during a period when Germany in the last 20 minutes was in offensive mode and already had some very good chances that Ariola saved.

The offensives all put in big defensive shifts. It was not a match to show that you might win a dribble but to show workrate.

Nobody in Germany expected an offensive fireworks of Germany today. The biggest critic in Germany about the World Cup was that the players did not show enough passion. And the biggest problem was that we played offensive harakiri in Russia playing 3 offensive minded midfielders + 2 offensive minded fullbacks - what ended in not having defensive stability and at the same moment making it offensive toothless when dozens of crosses flew into the box and a lot shots from second row were done without trying various other more risky possibilities. This match was there to win new credit. We played a new midfield, too, with Kimmich as no. 6 and Goretzka in it.

Löw totally was right with not taking Sane to the World Cup. What you do in your club just is an entrance card to the National team - to stay there and to play you have to show up when necessary. And that is what Sane did not do. When it was about who of the two younger players gets the World Cup ticket no. 23 he lost to the one that showed a lot more motivation.

He was better than the other sideways passing, robot helmets when he came on last night.

Just as he might have been at the world cup.

But wheras the French realised the danger Mbappe could cause to disjointed, part time, international defences, & worked out a game plan to expolit it, the Germans left a similar player at home, & plodded their way to arrogant failure & got exactly what they deserved.

 

[mosssideblue]

No,

But if anyone wants to argue that a 22 year old player, suddenly becoming the main topic of negative conversation, having his attitude questioned, by the world's press, on the night he comes back into the international fold, doesn't increase pressure, I'm not going to waste one second of my life pretending that opinion is worth intelligent discussion other than for the pure sake of having an argument.

Not looking for any argument, but clearly you have been in this thread with posters who think there may be a different angle, to such an extent its your way oe tyhe highway. That is not a debate, but short sightedness imo.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Not looking for any argument, but clearly you have been in this thread with posters who think there may be a different angle, to such an extent its your way oe tyhe highway. That is not a debate, but short sightedness imo.

No, it's the fact that, right or wrong, some **** who doesn't work for our club, shouldn't be telling the world's press that one of our players has the wrong fucking 'body language' irrespective of what context it's in, where it is, or who he is.

It's piss poor & imo people are showing a small club mentality by accepting it.

Utd or Liverpool wouldn't.

 

[Neville Kneville]

It's also possible that perhaps Sane would have got more time on the pitch last night, if he hadn't been put in the spotlight pre game.

 

[Pigeonho]

No, it's the fact that, right or wrong, some **** who doesn't work for our club, shouldn't be telling the world's press that one of our players has the wrong fucking 'body language' irrespective of what context it's in, where it is, or who he is.

It's piss poor & imo people are showing a small club mentality by accepting it.

Utd or Liverpool wouldn't.

That’s a bit below the belt, small club mentality? Doesn’t even make sense. Kroos and Sane aren’t of Real Madrid and City fame where this topic is concerned, the two clubs have nothing to do with it. It’s international team mates, one of whom is calling on the other to sort his neck out. He has every right to do that if it’s in the interests of the German national team.