Religion

These two are definitely the same person.
Some might say that true sameness cannot be found by persona - due to its very nature - but the attempt to replicate true sameness in persona is what
gives rise to an education system that is built to churn out homogenous, mechanical robots. But hey - who knows, maybe they are chatting bullshit? Would you be willing to comment?
 
Haha, that’s exactly what I thought when I first read that story “I’d buy ’shroomed up reindeer piss if they sold it in the shops!”

I’ve used and enjoyed psychoactive drugs to open my mind up to different ways of thinking and feeling. Whenever I’ve used them I’ve always felt more sure of myself as a person, more at peace with the worries and stresses I usually have in life. Whenever I’ve had long periods of time without taking them I feel more insecure about myself and those worries and stresses. I think they’re a wonderful thing and are very misunderstood by modern societies!

One thing I really want to do is go to South America and go to a retreat and take Ayahuasca.
For sure, many 'plant medicines' are misunderstood by modern societies..perhaps mainly because they work in a way that 'they shouldn't.' As for the likes of Ayahuasca, have known people who have found this great, others a bit of a nightmare. Don't know if this will come across as patronising but more and more it comes to feel like the difference between these two 'camps' is one of intent. In one camp you might have those that seek it out to be 'trendy' (for want of a better word) in the other camp there are those that feel a deeper 'call'. By the sounds of how you write, you probably already have a good feel for this and treat the medicines with respect - maybe more than I do.Its just that there has become a gringo ayahuasca culture around that has some not so pretty stories to go with it for sure. Anyhow, for me at the moment, my preference along these lines is more for kambo and/or cacao...though I might pay a visit to the west coast of Mexico, if I truly feel the call of the hongos :-)

But,yeah - reindeer piss still sounds intriguing...though I might not want to, erm, piss off the sami folk and their shamans...
 
Some might say that true sameness cannot be found by persona - due to its very nature - but the attempt to replicate true sameness in persona is what
gives rise to an education system that is built to churn out homogenous, mechanical robots. But hey - who knows, maybe they are chatting bullshit? Would you be willing to comment?

I think you may be right, Taxi
 
I think you may be right, Taxi
I am quite happy for you to asks the mods whether this is actually true. Are you?
Edit : ps you seem not so keen to take up this idea. Might it be that even you are not so sure
about your ability to discern truth, about your powers of deductive reasoning?
 
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The irony of this line. In that what I been speaking of is a way to really open to one's own 'best way' - that which is beyond the conditioning given to us by others...whether 'religious,' 'scientific' or whatever. And if you call me relentless then maybe this is just a natural 'stamina' that comes from letting go of the need to spend energy on trying to follow a way that is not truly one's own?

and i was ironic
 
and i was ironic
What's your problem? I get that you don't understand what I write, that what I write might not be 'normal' for bluemoon. But there are shitloads of people outside
of this sheltered environment that are choosing to do this kind of work/practice. Not for you, ok. Enjoy the fruits of your ego.
 
What's your problem? I get that you don't understand what I write, that what I write might not be 'normal' for bluemoon. But there are shitloads of people outside
of this sheltered environment that are choosing to do this kind of work/practice. Not for you, ok. Enjoy the fruits of your ego.

if you don't like what i write, you have a few options open to you mate

you have intimated on a couple of occasions that you say there is something beyond this earthly existence have you not?
 
if you don't like what i write, you have a few options open to you mate

you have intimated on a couple of occasions that you say there is something beyond this earthly existence have you not?
Is that some sort of cowardly way of saying you think I should fuck off and die? How courageous of you. Ok. Lets have a look at this. For you to not
know - or even be vaguely open to the notion of knowing - that is going to involve holding onto bitterness and resentment (towards the church?)
so as to not know the joy of the heart. Its gonna mean that you stay trapped in the conditioned mind that is incapable of truly original (of source) thought.
Then you will identify with this. And perhaps try to attack anyone that speaks in a way that might be a threat to this status quo. So you'll end up being like
some kind of Robot whose main job in life is to be a messenger for a miserable meme. You are free to choose this.
 
Is that some sort of cowardly way of saying you think I should fuck off and die? How courageous of you. Ok. Lets have a look at this. For you to not
know - or even be vaguely open to the notion of knowing - that is going to involve holding onto bitterness and resentment (towards the church?)
so as to not know the joy of the heart. Its gonna mean that you stay trapped in the conditioned mind that is incapable of truly original (of source) thought.
Then you will identify with this. And perhaps try to attack anyone that speaks in a way that might be a threat to this status quo. So you'll end up being like
some kind of Robot whose main job in life is to be a messenger for a miserable meme. You are free to choose this.

putting words into my mouth mate, i have said no such thing

i would go and get a morning coffee, you seem to have got out of the wrong side of the bed

and once again you have avoided answering the simplest of question
 
My born again Christian friend uses the word 'Conditioned' to describe people who don't believe in religious faith he genuinely and honestly believes that the unbelievers walk round with their eyes shut.
 
putting words into my mouth mate, i have said no such thing

i would go and get a morning coffee, you seem to have got out of the wrong side of the bed

and once again you have avoided answering the simplest of question
Its kind of obvious But the likes of passive aggressive folk would never admit to being aggressive - that's sort of the point.
Anyhow, you go live your inspiring day. Just be extra vigilant for anyone that might dare to open to and trust the joy of the heart
Shut them down as quick as you can. Especially if they are children. Can't have people enjoying life - that would be way to dangerous and irresponsible. Maybe
if they follow your orders you can give them some vouchers that can be redeemed in the shop of false happiness - that's a great basis for life.
 
My born again Christian friend uses the word 'Conditioned' to describe people who don't believe in religious faith he genuinely and honestly believes that the unbelievers walk round with their eyes shut.
conditioning = learning; eyes shut = 'seeing' through a mind that is closed to the heart.Has anyone not known this in their life? Might say say it is those that have
had their eyes extra closed - that end up seeing a world so dark - that end up wanting to 'see' the Light perhaps more than most. Whether through christianity
or whatever, some would say this really doesn't matter.
 
Its kind of obvious But the likes of passive aggressive folk would never admit to being aggressive - that's sort of the point.
Anyhow, you go live your inspiring day. Just be extra vigilant for anyone that might dare to open to and trust the joy of the heart
Shut them down as quick as you can. Especially if they are children. Can't have people enjoying life - that would be way to dangerous and irresponsible. Maybe
if they follow your orders you can give them some vouchers that can be redeemed in the shop of false happiness - that's a great basis for life.

isn't that what you are doing right now?
like the way you go round saying conditioning is something that is affecting everyone else but you, and you are probably the biggest victim of it, not saying that's a bad thing by the way

anyway

you have intimated on a couple of occasions that you say there is something beyond this earthly existence have you not?
 
isn't that what you are doing right now?
like the way you go round saying conditioning is something that is affecting everyone else but you, and you are probably the biggest victim of it, not saying that's a bad thing by the way

anyway

you have intimated on a couple of occasions that you say there is something beyond this earthly existence have you not?
If you read what I have been writing, is it possible that I what have been saying is that art, in its truest sense, is a process of becoming aware of and letting go of conditioning that keeps one closed to the joy, love and genuine creativity of the Heart. That it is this conditioning that gets in the way of deeper union of the intuitive and logical, the marriage of mystery and mastery. Do I get stuck in this conditioning at times? Fuck, yeah! Do I lie to myself about being stuck in this conditioning at times? Sure - that could be called denial. Do I want to protect this conditioning at times? RAAAAAAAAGE - uh-huh, know that too. Do I try and bargain with myself that if could just make my 'conditioning that is closed to the heart' better than lot's of other people's 'conditioning that is closed to the heart' then I will be happy? Shhhhh don't tell anyone but yes, I try that too. Do I ever come into a state of depression about this conditioning - just so sad, don't know what to do? Yep...actually I wish that I had known that there was nothing wrong with this earlier - that it is just a part of a process of coming to acceptance of the heart - then I might not have gotten stuck in it so much, been able to move through it easier.

Beyond that, I came to find that resistance to the Light brings a kind of dullness - which one might then try to dress this up as 'interesting'/' exciting'/'clever' etc but even those begin to lose there gloss after a while. But also when I feel open to Light it is like the body feel more supported - it is literally easier to move....when closed to the light, then the body becomes more like a burden to be dragged around - in the first state questions about the likes of the afterlife and such lose their relevance, in the second state these questions are important as I might secretly want to leave this physical plane...so if there is a heaven and hell, I wonder if I could find a way, at this late stage, to bribe my way into the former and avoid the latter.

From this, is it possible to see that this thread has me curious as to whether the likes of football can be a process akin to the transformational way of arts. Can there be writing that is not just cold intellect or emotional reactionism but that leads somewhere else? But also here's something for you to consider - is it possible that when you ask for proof, this doesn't feel like an invitation to open to the creativity of the Heart but rather an insistence that things are kept only on a mind level...and this, for me, does not feel like such genuine communication.
 
If you read what I have been writing, is it possible that I what have been saying is that art, in its truest sense, is a process of becoming aware of and letting go of conditioning that keeps one closed to the joy, love and genuine creativity of the Heart. That it is this conditioning that gets in the way of deeper union of the intuitive and logical, the marriage of mystery and mastery. Do I get stuck in this conditioning at times? Fuck, yeah! Do I lie to myself about being stuck in this conditioning at times? Sure - that could be called denial. Do I want to protect this conditioning at times? RAAAAAAAAGE - uh-huh, know that too. Do I try and bargain with myself that if could just make my 'conditioning that is closed to the heart' better than lot's of other people's 'conditioning that is closed to the heart' then I will be happy? Shhhhh don't tell anyone but yes, I try that too. Do I ever come into a state of depression about this conditioning - just so sad, don't know what to do? Yep...actually I wish that I had known that there was nothing wrong with this earlier - that it is just a part of a process of coming to acceptance of the heart - then I might not have gotten stuck in it so much, been able to move through it easier.

Beyond that, I came to find that resistance to the Light brings a kind of dullness - which one might then try to dress this up as 'interesting'/' exciting'/'clever' etc but even those begin to lose there gloss after a while. But also when I feel open to Light it is like the body feel more supported - it is literally easier to move....when closed to the light, then the body becomes more like a burden to be dragged around - in the first state questions about the likes of the afterlife and such lose their relevance, in the second state these questions are important as I might secretly want to leave this physical plane...so if there is a heaven and hell, I wonder if I could find a way, at this late stage, to bribe my way into the former and avoid the latter.

From this, is it possible to see that this thread has me curious as to whether the likes of football can be a process akin to the transformational way of arts. Can there be writing that is not just cold intellect or emotional reactionism but that leads somewhere else? But also here's something for you to consider - is it possible that when you ask for proof, this doesn't feel like an invitation to open to the creativity of the Heart but rather an insistence that things are kept only on a mind level...and this, for me, does not feel like such genuine communication.

is that a yes or a no?
 
is that a yes or a no?
The intellect that thinks that it's oh clever yet can only think in ways such as yes or no. So demands
that any conversation is kept on this level otherwise it might be shown up for what it is - a not-so-intelligent fraud.
 
The flat Earth thread was more believable than some if the tripe on here.
No one of even average intelligence can believe in such a badly written piece of fiction as the bible, let alone live their life by that crap.
Religion has two main aims.
1 make money for the church.
2 Allow church workers to abuse and exploit people.
 
Take away all the pomp and ceremony from religions, and there elements of all religions could be used a fairly successful blueprint to live your life by.

Unfortunately there are too many charlatans that are happy to play on peoples fears and insecurities and exploit them for their own greed.

You only have to scratch the surface to find evidence of people being fleeced in the name of religion. Take the guy who founded The Radio Church of God, Herbert W Armstrong. He was surrounded with controversy regarding his finances towards the end of his life. Billy Graham was reported to be worth upwards of $25M when he died. Then you have this guy (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44305873).
 
The flat Earth thread was more believable than some if the tripe on here.
No one of even average intelligence can believe in such a badly written piece of fiction as the bible, let alone live their life by that crap.
Religion has two main aims.
1 make money for the church.
2 Allow church workers to abuse and exploit people.
Makes me laugh as to how much people reveal about themselves without even realising it. Comedy Gold.
 

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