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The Rise of the Far Right
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You ever heard of Labour leave?
Fame Monster
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I would say the unpopular right have less of a platform to spread their views, and their views are less influential in public institutions in this country, than the unpopular left. The job of the media should be to discredit them with facts and debate not to ignore them.
The perfect fumble
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The far left is as bad, if not worse than the far right. Both extremes are dark places.
Apologists for the far left usually cite the enormous hostility far left governments face once in power to explain their trajectory in to authoritarianism. Western democracies are far more forgiving of extreme right wing governments, because for the most part they leave the people who own everything alone, or they are the people who own everything, or they rather obligingly co-opt them.
This country has never really had a powerful extreme right wing political party, our establishment dog whistles and subtly shifts if it feels things are drifting in that direction.
With that said political discourse in this country has definitely shifted rightwards, with "politicians" who only a few years ago would have been shunned or dismissed as cranks given column inches and air time. So now viewpoints that only golf club bores and retired army colonels indulged in are mainstream, shock jock right wing radio is still peripheral here, though Talk Radio flirts with it and of course we have celebrity fascist Stephen Yaxley-Lennon for the great unwashed.
I'm not sure how things will pan out, public discourse is now crueller and coarser than it used to be and will become more so if things start to really turn to shit, whether that means we'll see the rise of an extreme right wing party remains to be seen. What cannot be denied is that extreme right wingers now feel empowered to air their opinions as mainstream in ways unthinkable only a few years ago.
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You ever heard of Labour leave?
Yes, there’s about 5 of them in the country and one is leading the party.
Fame Monster
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Interestingly, I was watching ‘Louis and the Nazis’ the other night. In it, the neo-Nazis are constantly doing Nazi salutes and shouting ‘niggers out’. It’s available on iplayer now but according to the BBC, it was last broadcast on TV in 2003. I might be wrong but I’m guessing that’s because the media now consider it unacceptable to show such gestures or language on TV no matter the context or purpose of the documentary. That seems ridiculous to me no matter how abhorrent I consider the views to be so I wouldn’t say the media has become more accepting of the far right.
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Yes, there’s about 5 of them in the country and one is leading the party.
Of course as that will explain the Labour heartlands voting to leave in very large numbers.
Silly me.
Of course as that will explain the Labour heartlands voting to leave in very large numbers.
Silly me.
They aren’t necessarily members of Labour Leave though are they?
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They aren’t necessarily members of Labour Leave though are they?
Obviously.....we are all members of stormfront.
Obviously.....we are all members of stormfront.
No just the “we got conned club”.
The perfect fumble
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This is a very good read about the far right in the UK.....
Tommy Robinson and the far right’s new playbook...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/25/tommy-robinson-and-the-far-rights-new-playbook
It focuses on Stephen Yaxley-Lennon and how he's tied in with the global hard right, their use of social media and how their influence infects mainstream debate.
Being the Guardian its conclusions are weak sauce but its a good read nonetheless.
inchy14
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Errrr? The leadership of the Labour Party.
You've not been keeping abreast of events it seems, in that case I've some terrible news about the Titanic.
I knew that numb nuts, put there by the momentum students and a fair few from the far left like yourself.
Elected to lead the Labour Party into further wilderness as hell never take them to leading the actual country.
When/if that’s happens then I’d get excited about him being ‘elected’.
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I've been told that Nazi's don't exist.
I've also been told off for calling people - dressed in combat gear featuring Nazi emblems and adornments, giving Nazi salutes, whilst singing tributes to Hitler's anti-semetic policy - Nazi's.
In my defence, I was pretty sure they weren't WW2 recreationists, but people on a far-right march.
No, no, no. There is no such thing as a Nazi anyway.. And if there ever was, apparently the big take away is that they were socialists, just like Tony Benn.
I've also been told off for calling people - dressed in combat gear featuring Nazi emblems and adornments, giving Nazi salutes, whilst singing tributes to Hitler's anti-semetic policy - Nazi's.
In my defence, I was pretty sure they weren't WW2 recreationists, but people on a far-right march.
No, no, no. There is no such thing as a Nazi anyway.. And if there ever was, apparently the big take away is that they were socialists, just like Tony Benn.
I've been told that Nazi's don't exist.
I've also been told off for calling people - dressed in combat gear featuring Nazi emblems and adornments, giving Nazi salutes, whilst singing tributes to Hitler's anti-semetic policy - Nazi's.
In my defence, I was pretty sure they weren't WW2 recreationists, but people on a far-right march.
No, no, no. There is no such thing as a Nazi anyway.. And if there ever was, apparently the big take away is that they were socialists, just like Tony Benn.
Who told you off for that?
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Summerbuzz
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A nazi.Who told you off for that?
I've been told that Nazi's don't exist.
I've also been told off for calling people - dressed in combat gear featuring Nazi emblems and adornments, giving Nazi salutes, whilst singing tributes to Hitler's anti-semetic policy - Nazi's.
In my defence, I was pretty sure they weren't WW2 recreationists, but people on a far-right march.
No, no, no. There is no such thing as a Nazi anyway.. And if there ever was, apparently the big take away is that they were socialists, just like Tony Benn.
I'm glad I could come back to this because I made this point in the EDL thread.
You can either claim that the far right are a big problem that needs to be addressed or you can mock their crap attendance but doing both seems a bit like playing both sides.
I'm glad I could come back to this because I made this point in the EDL thread.
You can either claim that the far right are a big problem that needs to be addressed or you can mock their crap attendance but doing both seems a bit like playing both sides.
I think you can do both.
Actual far-right marches don’t attract many people at the moment but there seems to be an ever-increasing vibe of far-right sentiment sweeping the western world. I laugh my cock off when only 15 of the ****s turn up to a march but then I’m keeping an wary eye on people who are yet to join them, yet display similar views.
malg
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Liar.I've been told that Nazi's don't exist.
I've also been told off for calling people - dressed in combat gear featuring Nazi emblems and adornments, giving Nazi salutes, whilst singing tributes to Hitler's anti-semetic policy - Nazi's.
In my defence, I was pretty sure they weren't WW2 recreationists, but people on a far-right march.
No, no, no. There is no such thing as a Nazi anyway.. And if there ever was, apparently the big take away is that they were socialists, just like Tony Benn.
I think you can do both.
Actual far-right marches don’t attract many people at the moment but there seems to be an ever-increasing vibe of far-right sentiment sweeping the western world. I laugh my cock off when only 15 of the ****s turn up to a march but then I’m keeping an wary eye on people who are yet to join them, yet display similar views.
That sounds a bit thought policey the way that reads mate.
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Summerbuzz
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Good catch, I AM a liar! It's a pretty big problem for me and those around me. But this still happened, minus the Tony Benn bit. That was me being facetious.Liar.