Football Lads and Lasses against Facism

blueinsa said:
Always does.
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Not surprising when the level of debate is as low as you manage.

I was merely informing people that it is time to stand up to the racist far right nutjobs who inhabit the likes of the DFLA and the EDL. Manchester did it before in the 70s when the NF was removed from our streets thanks to likeminded groups from City and United.

No platforming and aggressive countering are tactics well established in the UK and can be seen in an historical context at the Battle of Cable Street where ANTIFA , its Union and Jewish allies faced down Oswald Moseley.

Its not promoting football violence, its standing up to the already violent. If you condone the the far right, here is truly abject and a lost cause. These people want our owners out of the country, they want our foreign players sent home. They stand for hatred and division. As ever they are the idiot fringe of the working class being used by middle class paymasters to further their own ends and line their pockets. Stand up to them and don't fall for their lies and hatred.
 
Rascal said:
Not surprising when the level of debate is as low as you manage.

I was merely informing people that it is time to stand up to the racist far right nutjobs who inhabit the likes of the DFLA and the EDL. Manchester did it before in the 70s when the NF was removed from our streets thanks to likeminded groups from City and United.

No platforming and aggressive countering are tactics well established in the UK and can be seen in an historical context at the Battle of Cable Street where ANTIFA , its Union and Jewish allies faced down Oswald Moseley.

Its not promoting football violence, its standing up to the already violent. If you condone the the far right, here is truly abject and a lost cause. These people want our owners out of the country, they want our foreign players sent home. They stand for hatred and division. As ever they are the idiot fringe of the working class being used by middle class paymasters to further their own ends and line their pockets. Stand up to them and don't fall for their lies and hatred.
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I’ve no time for the far right, nor the fucking idiots you are promoting in here.
 
oldtimerdiscopants said:
They describe themselves on their Twitter account as being a "Firm".

No place for them around football at all.
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Its the staggering hypocrisy of people denouncing right wing violence one minute and then promoting left wing violence the next.

Both are as bad as each other, fucking despised by the vast majority in this country and have no place whatsoever in football, especially our club.
 
blueinsa said:
Its the staggering hypocrisy of people denouncing right wing violence one minute and then promoting left wing violence the next.

Both are as bad as each other, fucking despised by the vast majority in this country and have no place whatsoever in football, especially our club.
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When I go to the match I am concentrating on just one thing and that is watching football and being a blue, I don't see many Nazi flags or images of Stalin in and around the ground and I honestly believe that if these nutters try to make matchday into a battleground they'll get short shrift from the attending football aficionados.
 
Rascal said:
Not surprising when the level of debate is as low as you manage.

I was merely informing people that it is time to stand up to the racist far right nutjobs who inhabit the likes of the DFLA and the EDL. Manchester did it before in the 70s when the NF was removed from our streets thanks to likeminded groups from City and United.

No platforming and aggressive countering are tactics well established in the UK and can be seen in an historical context at the Battle of Cable Street where ANTIFA , its Union and Jewish allies faced down Oswald Moseley.

Its not promoting football violence, its standing up to the already violent. If you condone the the far right, here is truly abject and a lost cause. These people want our owners out of the country, they want our foreign players sent home. They stand for hatred and division. As ever they are the idiot fringe of the working class being used by middle class paymasters to further their own ends and line their pockets. Stand up to them and don't fall for their lies and hatred.
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Stop making out there is a masive problem at our club when there is not one. City have historically been a club supported by large numbers of the Jewish community in Manchester and the club has for as long as I can remember had black players idolised by the fans going back to roger Palmer , the goat, yaya etc etc.

Fuck me even the pope supported city as we were one of the first clubs to embrace overseas signings . Kazya Dayna

This is a club who took a German prisoner of war post the war and gave him a chance and idolised him

This club is a fantastic pluralistic club that embraces people from overseas and whatever religion or colour

No city fans want the owners out of our country and our foreign players sent home. Stop being a bell this is not city.
 
So they are saying, don't be a far right nutjob... be a far left nutjob and receive an extra 50% self-righteousness free!
 
Rascal said:
Not surprising when the level of debate is as low as you manage.

I was merely informing people that it is time to stand up to the racist far right nutjobs who inhabit the likes of the DFLA and the EDL. Manchester did it before in the 70s when the NF was removed from our streets thanks to likeminded groups from City and United.

No platforming and aggressive countering are tactics well established in the UK and can be seen in an historical context at the Battle of Cable Street where ANTIFA , its Union and Jewish allies faced down Oswald Moseley.

Its not promoting football violence, its standing up to the already violent. If you condone the the far right, here is truly abject and a lost cause. These people want our owners out of the country, they want our foreign players sent home. They stand for hatred and division. As ever they are the idiot fringe of the working class being used by middle class paymasters to further their own ends and line their pockets. Stand up to them and don't fall for their lies and hatred.
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City are not a racist club in any way shape or form.
 
blueinsa said:
I’ve no time for the far right, nor the fucking idiots you are promoting in here.
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As a moderator you should facilitate debate not add your own misguided views.

If you don't understand the reasoning behind a thread it makes it even worse when you wade in spouting wildly inaccurate nonsense. Stay out of it and do your job.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
Stop making out there is a masive problem at our club when there is not one. City have historically been a club supported by large numbers of the Jewish community in Manchester and the club has for as long as I can remember had black players idolised by the fans going back to roger Palmer , the goat, yaya etc etc.

Fuck me even the pope supported city as we were one of the first clubs to embrace overseas signings . Kazya Dayna

This is a club who took a German prisoner of war post the war and gave him a chance and idolised him

This club is a fantastic pluralistic club that embraces people from overseas and whatever religion or colour

No city fans want the owners out of our country and our foreign players sent home. Stop being a bell this is not city.
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I didn't say there was a massive problem I said there is one on the horizon if people like yourself carry on with your head in the sand.

You might not remember when there was a massive problem at City with the NF in the early 70s. If you want our club to carry on being everything it purports to be you would support the FLAF and its aims to rid the game of the far right element that is sneaking under the radar and using the DFLA as a cover to infiltrate clubs with their poison. West Brom a club like ours has had problems with the DFLA already and their Rainbow alliance is standing against them.

And please don't give me history lessons about our club when you cant even spell Kazimierz. So stop being a bell and open your eyes to the fact there is poison around and we must be vigilant. If you don't understand the far rights agenda I suggest you read up on it and you will see it will not be in our interests at all.
 
blueinsa said:
Its the staggering hypocrisy of people denouncing right wing violence one minute and then promoting left wing violence the next.

Both are as bad as each other, fucking despised by the vast majority in this country and have no place whatsoever in football, especially our club.
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You really are as thick as people say. If you cant see the difference then I am staggered.

Without the right wing violence promulgated by the DFLA and EDL there would be no need to counter them. They exist and need to be opposed otherwise its just far right violence that wins the day and our club, and football overall becomes a breeding ground for racists and fascism. Do you just want to stand by and hope they go away? Because they wont unless they are opposed as we have seen throughout history.

Should we have let Moseley march through the East end of London, should we have allowed the NF free reign on the Kippax and just say its OK because there is no place for them. Do nothing and our club is at risk from the rise of the far right as every club is throughout the land. We don't have a problem as it stands but the problem is escalating and as a big club we will be seen as a breeding ground for their vitriol. Its the way they operate, they always have and always will.

All you need to do is take a peek at the Yaxley thread on here and you will see there is sympathy for his far right views. They are dressed up as populist measures but they are sinister and are working there way into our fanbase. If you don't see that as a problem then obviously im wasting my time here, but don't say you haven't been warned.
 
Rascal said:
As a moderator you should facilitate debate not add your own misguided views.

If you don't understand the reasoning behind a thread it makes it even worse when you wade in spouting wildly inaccurate nonsense. Stay out of it and do your job.
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He's a member of this community just as you are,he has every right to post his opinion on any thread he chooses.Also,what gives you the right to call someone else's beliefs misguided,simply because they don't suit your own? I suggest you remove the blinkers and be more tolerant/accepting where a difference in thinking is concerned.
 
Rascal said:
You really are as thick as people say. If you cant see the difference then I am staggered.

Without the right wing violence promulgated by the DFLA and EDL there would be no need to counter them. They exist and need to be opposed otherwise its just far right violence that wins the day and our club, and football overall becomes a breeding ground for racists and fascism. Do you just want to stand by and hope they go away? Because they wont unless they are opposed as we have seen throughout history.

Should we have let Moseley march through the East end of London, should we have allowed the NF free reign on the Kippax and just say its OK because there is no place for them. Do nothing and our club is at risk from the rise of the far right as every club is throughout the land. We don't have a problem as it stands but the problem is escalating and as a big club we will be seen as a breeding ground for their vitriol. Its the way they operate, they always have and always will.

All you need to do is take a peek at the Yaxley thread on here and you will see there is sympathy for his far right views. They are dressed up as populist measures but they are sinister and are working there way into our fanbase. If you don't see that as a problem then obviously im wasting my time here, but don't say you haven't been warned.
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Is this your equivalent of reds under the bed do you just see facist and racist everywhere
 
Rascal said:
You really are as thick as people say. If you cant see the difference then I am staggered.

Without the right wing violence promulgated by the DFLA and EDL there would be no need to counter them. They exist and need to be opposed otherwise its just far right violence that wins the day and our club, and football overall becomes a breeding ground for racists and fascism. Do you just want to stand by and hope they go away? Because they wont unless they are opposed as we have seen throughout history.

Should we have let Moseley march through the East end of London, should we have allowed the NF free reign on the Kippax and just say its OK because there is no place for them. Do nothing and our club is at risk from the rise of the far right as every club is throughout the land. We don't have a problem as it stands but the problem is escalating and as a big club we will be seen as a breeding ground for their vitriol. Its the way they operate, they always have and always will.

All you need to do is take a peek at the Yaxley thread on here and you will see there is sympathy for his far right views. They are dressed up as populist measures but they are sinister and are working there way into our fanbase. If you don't see that as a problem then obviously im wasting my time here, but don't say you haven't been warned.
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Even when city had a firm when it was all kicking off it was black lads and white lads. Do you not remember daft Donald and Rodney in the guvnors?

Maybe you should have called one of those a fascist and see what happened.
 
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