United thread 2018/19

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GeorgeHeslop'sTackle. said:
B*stards were as quiet as I’ve ever heard them today, the lads and lasses in the south stand were certainly taking no sh*t today, and drowned the fkrs out big time.
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It was great to hear them singing: "Where were you when you were shit" just like a small-time mid-table club's fans. Still they can console themselves with the fact that their real rivals are Liverpool.
 
Fuck the ****s, was in school from 93-04, probs one of two or three City lads in my class. People I went to school with seeing their arse whenever I stick the boot in when we twat them. Let them suffer. No amount will ever be enough. Hope they boil in their own piss.
 
I'm sure there will be a few red scum lurking on here to see what we are saying about them..and in case there are a few I have to say....

You're fucking shit you're fucking shit you're fucking shit.
What a gutless pathetic display from a bunch of overpaid C.unts...we fucking schooled you and we never got out of 3rd gear.
You twats loved rubbing our faces in the shit when we were awful and we had to take it..boots on the other foot now..and fuck me we are loving it.
Suffer you red bastards..fucking suffer long and hard.
 
I won the Mourinho Bingo yesterday, with 'tired after a difficult away game/City had it easy'.

He's turned into the Portuguese Donald Trump. "It's not me, to make excuses; we had a very difficult game midweek...etc" "I don't want to talk about a player who wasn't available, I don't do that; we had to play Fellaini for 90 mins....etc"

Donaldo.
 
Neville Kneville said:
I won the Mourinho Bingo yesterday, with 'tired after a difficult away game/City had it easy'.

He's turned into the Portuguese Donald Trump. "It's not me, to make excuses; we had a very difficult game midweek...etc" "I don't want to talk about a player who wasn't available, I don't do that; we had to play Fellaini for 90 mins....etc"

Donaldo.
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The last bit is the most bizarre of his statements. "I didn't have Fellaini to bring on for the last 20 minutes," he claimed. That's because you had him on the pitch from the start for all 90.

If he had wanted to play Fellaini less than the 90 minutes, he had a £50 million central midfielder on the bench whom he bought just this summer and refuses to play for some reason.
 
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That Wonderful Wednesday night in Turin may have been a huge mistake...

Good Points: Mourinho has his mojo back! x3 wins on the bounce! Still in Champions League!

Bad Points : Outclassed by City Sunday, Down to 8th, No Chance of a Europa League Trophy!


Should have let Juve win 1:0 and then took possible option of back door CL 2019 qualification!
 
Mr.Feeny said:
The last bit is the most bizarre of his statements. "I didn't have Fellaini to bring on for the last 20 minutes," he claimed. That's because you had him on the pitch from the start for all 90.

If he had wanted to play Fellaini less than the 90 minutes, he had a £50 million central midfielder on the bench whom he bought just this summer and refuses to play for some reason.
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And presumably, the 50 million pound player, should also be good enough to bring on, in place of Fellaini, if he's a bit tired.

But of course Mourinho is such a football genius, that his plan would have been, to go 0-2 down with Pogba in the team, then be handed a pen, on a plate, & bring on Fellaini, who of course, would have changed the game & Utd won 3-2 again.

Imo, having watched the game once live & once on video, Fellaini actually played out of his skin & was their best defender. If Pogba had played, there would have been a great big fucking hole, where Fellaini was.

Pep on the other hand, would have just pulled one out of the bag & played Mata there or Luke Shaw or someone & got the best performance of the season out of them, like he does. Mourinho can't see past having a bunch of giants in the team.
 
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Neville Kneville said:
And presumably, the 50 million pound player, should also be good enough to bring on, in place of Fellaini, if he's a bit tired.

But of course Mourinho is such a football genius, that his plan would have been, to go 0-2 down with Pogba in the team, then be handed a pen, on a plate, & bring on Fellaini, who of course, would have changed the game & Utd won 3-2 again.

Imo, having watched the game once live & once on video, Fellaini actually played out of his skin & was their best defender. If Pogba had played, there would have been a great big fucking hole, where Fellaini was.

Pep on the other hand, would have just pulled one out of the bag & played Mata there or Luke Shaw or someone & got the best performance of the season out of them, like he does. Mourinho can't see past having a bunch of giants in the team.
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I think so too. He actually played well and in a performance that was egregiously poor by United, he embarrassed himself less than anyone else. Having said that, Pogba would have linked the play more. They struggle to create without him because Fellaini is more static. He is more defensively solid than Pogba but cannot create the way Pogba does.

It isn't an excuse, though, because we were missing Kevin DeBryune as well. You adjust and play your game.

As you said, the structure of their team is poor but Mourinho seems to love the idea of giants who could cue up in the opposition box and get something out of a match even when they're outplayed. In the long term, that's not a winning strategy and it isn't the way to maximize results.

You cannot play defensive football for 75 minutes and then hope to get something by launching long balls towards big men in an opposition box, through set pieces. It's a poor strategy and there's a reason they're trailing us by 12 points and trail 4th placed Spurs by 7 already.
 
Mr.Feeny said:
I think so too. He actually played well and in a performance that was egregiously poor by United, he embarrassed himself less than anyone else. Having said that, Pogba would have linked the play more. They struggle to create without him because Fellaini is more static. He is more defensively solid than Pogba but cannot create the way Pogba does.

It isn't an excuse, though, because we were missing Kevin DeBryune as well. You adjust and play your game.

As you said, the structure of their team is poor but Mourinho seems to love the idea of giants who could cue up in the opposition box and get something out of a match even when they're outplayed. In the long term, that's not a winning strategy and it isn't the way to maximize results.

You cannot play defensive football for 75 minutes and then hope to get something by launching long balls towards big men in an opposition box, through set pieces. It's a poor strategy and there's a reason they're trailing us by 12 points and trail 4th placed Spurs by 7 already.
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They have still only played 3 of the top 5 too!

They are dross and won’t be in top 4.

He will be sacked at the end of the season and they will then appoint someone who might know what they are doing and actually start building again. They are miles away currently. I think they need to spend in the region of £400m to get anywhere close to being a good side again.

That defence is piss poor, the midfield slow and the attackers weak and lacking football intelligence.

I though Martial was poor yesterday but has potential and Pogba has shown that he is a good player, just not for them. Ironically two players who seem less than thrilled being there.

Other than that none of their players are good enough with the exception of maybe De Gea (although he lacks the footballing skills of the new breed of keeper)
 
Mr.Feeny said:
I think so too. He actually played well and in a performance that was egregiously poor by United, he embarrassed himself less than anyone else. Having said that, Pogba would have linked the play more. They struggle to create without him because Fellaini is more static. He is more defensively solid than Pogba but cannot create the way Pogba does.

It isn't an excuse, though, because we were missing Kevin DeBryune as well. You adjust and play your game.

As you said, the structure of their team is poor but Mourinho seems to love the idea of giants who could cue up in the opposition box and get something out of a match even when they're outplayed. In the long term, that's not a winning strategy and it isn't the way to maximize results.

You cannot play defensive football for 75 minutes and then hope to get something by launching long balls towards big men in an opposition box, through set pieces. It's a poor strategy and there's a reason they're trailing us by 12 points and trail 4th placed Spurs by 7 already.
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Pogba would improve their football considerably, but he vacates space & gets caught in possession, which is exactly what City would have loved to exploit.

Mourinho's tactics can work, if he has people like Drogba, Lampard & John Terry, to raise the standard above his mundane coaching whilst he takes credit for it.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
They have still only played 3 of the top 5 too!

They are dross and won’t be in top 4.

He will be sacked at the end of the season and they will then appoint someone who might know what they are doing and actually start building again. They are miles away currently. I think they need to spend in the region of £400m to get anywhere close to being a good side again.

That defence is piss poor, the midfield slow and the attackers weak and lacking football intelligence.

I though Martial was poor yesterday but has potential and Pogba has shown that he is a good player, just not for them. Ironically two players who seem less than thrilled being there.

Other than that none of their players are good enough with the exception of maybe De Gea (although he lacks the footballing skills of the new breed of keeper)
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I'm leaning in that direction but I'm not going to make a prediction until Christmas. Tottenham have to play Chelsea and Arsenal back to back and they are currently 7 points ahead. Their lead might well be down to a 1 point after the next couple of Match days.

I think we have to wait and see how things play out. Either way, United have to go on a winning run now. If the rest of the top 4 maintain their form and United stutter a little, it will be too difficult to catch up.

I agree about the players. Martial and Pogba would both thrive under a different manager and neither seems incredible chuffed to be there at the moment. De Gea looked almost depressed last night.

The next manager will need to spend a boatload, as you said, because he's going to inherent an unstructured mess full of 6"4 immobile big men who can't play football. This style might suit Mourinho but it surely won't suit his successor. This might sound crazy in November but I think every City fan can feel relaxed about the prospect of United mounting a challenge to City this season. They're so far behind, in terms of football ability, approach, coaching.
 
Neville Kneville said:
Pogba would improve their football considerably, but he vacates space & gets caught in possession, which is exactly what City would have loved to exploit.

Mourinho's tactics can work, if he has people like Drogba, Lampard & John Terry, to raise the standard above his mundane coaching whilst he takes credit for it.
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I agree with that. The match would be more open and you could score more against them. But I was arguing that on the flip side, their attack is more potent with him in it. I don't think they'd be worse with Pogba in it. In fact, given that he's their best player, they'd have been slightly better (I say only slightly because as you pointed out, his strengths wouldn't fit the approach that United played last night since he's a poorer defensive player than Fellaini).

Your last sentence says it all. Had they won last night, he would have been cupping his ear and telling everyone about his tactical masterstroke. When we won, Guardiola showered the players with praise. After a while, players tend to get jaded playing for a manager like the former who seems to want all of the credit and non of the blame. The problem with United isn't just personnel; their players don't even look happy playing there. It looks like a funeral.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Other than that none of their players are good enough with the exception of maybe De Gea
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I don't rate him, either. He wouldn't fit us and surely we're the benchmark? He'd be okay in a mid-table team, or a yo-yo side, but a side aiming to be able to compete with us? Not a chance.
He's at his level where he is: playing for the rags. Same as A&E, Luke (Robbie Coltrane) Shaw, Phil (is-that-the-real-Tom-Cruise-or-what?) Jones, Paul (Emile Heskey) Pogbad or any of the other misfits at the swamp.

The alpaca was downright bloody awful in the World Cup, and he hasn't upped his game since. The only reason people use the words 'world class' in any sentence that mentions him is because of the club he plays for, definitely not for his abilities.
 
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