Leicester v City post match

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I believe we will beat Southampton ,but i have no confidence of beating Liverpool at home ,which is a must win game now..the way we have defended last month or so is really really poor and it seems we have to score atleast 3 goals to beat them if things don´t improve dramatically.
Liverpool is not must win. Beat Southampton and draw with Liverpool and we'll be 7 behind with half a season to go and we are capable of winning 6-7 games back to back.

We just have to win a game of football and start to feel good about ourselves again.

Perhaps there are one or two weaknesses in the squad but overall it's still a great squad. Guardiola messed up at home to Palace and that combined with world class goals has knocked us off our stride.

I look at our squad and the players in it, and I know it's only a matter of time before we get back to winning ways.
 
Liverpool is not must win. Beat Southampton and draw with Liverpool and we'll be 7 behind with half a season to go and we are capable of winning 6-7 games back to back.

We just have to win a game of football and start to feel good about ourselves again.

Perhaps there are one or two weaknesses in the squad but overall it's still a great squad. Guardiola messed up at home to Palace and that combined with world class goals has knocked us off our stride.

I look at our squad and the players in it, and I know it's only a matter of time before we get back to winning ways.

Do you know what mate your post has given me the perspective I needed. I was feeling miserable but you are right. Add to that hopefully we have had our blip and the scousers will have theirs at some point.
 
Right. Deep breath…
First off, nobody bother calling me a happy clapper, because I’m not fucking happy, and I’m not fucking clapping. Definitely not.
Three defeats in about three weeks. That’s abysmal for a team that has any kind of title pretensions, and there’s no two ways about it. But the thing that’s really doing my head in, I’m having real difficulty putting my hand on my heart and saying that we were actually dominated in any of those three matches. Far from it. Of course, the results say we were. But in fact, at Chelsea, we played them off the park right up until the moment they scored. Even in the second half, in fact, I have it even. That’s the match I saw. Against Palace, we’re clearly dominating them, same against Leicester yesterday. That’s why we go a goal up. Our goals didn’t come out of the blue, they were the result of the sort of patient, precise work that we’ve become famous for. But literally as soon as the other side attacks, it’s a stupid fucking goal (o.k, one world-class goal by Palace, one very, very fine strike by Leicester in the mix). Walker was lousy the other day, Delph made a howling, pub side mistake in his positioning yesterday. But you play as a team. More times than people care to recognise, there was at least one player on the pitch having a poor game even last season. But it was not particularly noticed, because we were playing as a team in every sense of the word. You run for your team-mates; you pass for them; and you cover for them when they make a blunder, which they’re going to do. It’s definitional. That’s what a team is. Simply. We’re not cohering properly as a team at present. But in none of the three matches we’ve just thrown away would I allow that we were dominated, in overall play. That is not an excuse, or a justification for what’s just happened.
I’m not convinced by the Fernandinho argument. Yes, he’s a superb player. Yes, he’s very important in the way we play. Last season, we went through a long period in mid-season without David Silva, who is one of the greatest players in the world, and the best player who’s been at this club. We sailed along, winning all the way. Even without him. If anything, winning for him. One player does not make all that difference. Not in a team as good as ours.
One negative advantage of the situation now is that everything is beautifully simple: if we lose the next two matches (and nobody needs telling what the second one represents), then I honestly think it’s gone. Thirteen points? No, really, not possible. Dippers will drop points here and there, sure. But they’d have to fall off a cliff. And we’d have to win virtually every single match till the end of the season. Do we look like a team that’s going to do that, at present?
So we have to win the next two matches, just to tread water.
Oh, and yes, it’s on another thread. But for me, winning a back to back premier league title is definitely more important than winning the CL (not that that’s not important).
Oh, and one other thing. People are playing out of their skins against us. We are a scalp and and a half. It’s flattering, in a pissing-off kind of way. Chelsea play like demons against us, with Luiz running everywhere, then lose at home straight away (to Leicester). Leicester themselves have been up and down. Palace beat us at our place and draw at their own place to Cardiff! You cannot make this stuff up.
 
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For the past two months we have not had KDB, who is only just getting match fit. In recent weeks we have also been without, all at the same time or individually; Sergio, Spanish Dave, and Dino. I suggest that this would be the equivalent to the dippers missing Mane, Firmino, Salah, and VVD. The fact that we haven't been able to run away with the title race is due to injuries and, in a large part, the improvement of other sides. From a few posters on here I would like to read a little less self-entitlement and a touch more realism. We're a goal down at half time, and all to play for...
 
Right. Deep breath…
First off, nobody bother calling me a happy clapper, because I’m not fucking happy, and I’m not fucking clapping. Definitely not.
Three defeats in about three weeks. That’s abysmal for a team that has any kind of title pretensions, and there’s no two ways about it. But the thing that’s really doing my head in, I’m having real difficulty putting my hand on my heart and saying that we were actually dominated in any of those three matches. Far from it. Of course, the results say we were. But in fact, at Chelsea, we played them off the park right up until the moment they scored. Even in the second half, in fact, I have it even. That’s the match I saw. Against Palace, we’re clearly dominating them, same against Leicester yesterday. That’s why we go a goal up. Our goals didn’t come out of the blue, they were the result of the sort of patient, precise work that we’ve become famous for. But literally as soon as the other side attacks, it’s a stupid fucking goal (o.k, one world-class goal by Palace, one very, very fine strike by Leicester in the mix). Walker was lousy the other day, Delph made a howling, pub side mistake in his positioning yesterday. But you play as a team. More times than people care to recognise, there was at least one player on the pitch having a poor game even last season. But it was not particularly noticed, because we were playing as a team in every sense of the word. You run for your team-mates; you pass for them; and you cover for them when they make a blunder, which they’re going to do. It’s definitional. That’s what a team is. Simply. We’re not cohering properly as a team at present. But in none of the three matches we’ve just thrown away would I allow that we were dominated, in overall play. That is not an excuse, or a justification for what’s just happened.
I’m not convinced by the Fernandinho argument. Yes, he’s a superb player. Yes, he’s very important in the way we play. Last season, we went through a long period in mid-season without David Silva, who is one of the greatest players in the world, and the best player who’s been at this club. We sailed along, winning all the way. Even without him. If anything, winning for him. One player does not make all that difference. Not in a team as good as ours.
One negative advantage of the situation now is that everything is beautifully simple: if we lose the next two matches (and nobody needs telling what the second one represents), then I honestly think it’s gone. Thirteen points? No, really, not possible. Dippers will drop points here and there, sure. But they’d have to fall off a cliff. And we’d have to win virtually every single match till the end of the season. Do we look like a team that’s going to do that, at present?
So we have to win the next two matches, just to tread water.
Oh, and yes, it’s on another thread. But for me, winning a back to back premier league title is definitely more important than winning the CL (not that that’s not important).
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Do you know what mate your post has given me the perspective I needed. I was feeling miserable but you are right. Add to that hopefully we have had our blip and the scousers will have theirs at some point.
I am miserable too but at least let's make a fight of this.

I am pretty confident we will recover. Last season was a one off, but in our previous title-winning seasons we had moments like this. So did Fergie's sides.

Guardiola has to earn his corn now. I'd change it around a bit. Bring Foden for some fresh legs and maybe put Sterling up front. Sterling is so quick, and brave no one can stop him but his finishing is haphazard. This might be the moment when he evolves from being a wide forward to a central forward. I think he can become a top class striker.

Perhaps Aguero has had that run of games he needs to get him back up to speed. Guardiola will have to read it. I'm sure he will make the right choices, but he does have options. There are players at the moment like Mahrez who haven't contributed to this season, but they could. He has to find a way of getting more out of the squad he has
 
You're all putting this down to Fern but the bigger problem for me but we have 70% possession and do not look like scoring. We have to thread the ball through an eye of a needle to score. I think that's always the way to an extent when it's 0-0 or you are chasing a game but we're missing Silva and de Bruyne to make those passes and we're missing a sharp forward to make those sprints to get into space.

I don't think Guardiola trusts Mahrez. He should be running games like this but we seem reluctant to use him. Having seen his pathetic performances on the wing I can see why but he does have the creativity to unlock defences.

Part of the problem is that Aguero is slow. He's still an amazing player but he's quite easy to mark and he doesn't have the basic speed any more which makes it difficult to find him. And where's Jesus? Just when he had that great game against Everton he gets injured.

You get these moments in football. Forget title talk. We need to get back to winning games again. Get Ederson, Stones and Laporte, Walker, KDB,Silva, Sterling, Sane and Bernardo on the pitch and the rest to make up the numbers and we'll win most games.

Even last season we didn't play great all season. This season we've had injury problems and when we've had bad games the opposition have scored belting goals. The team has got the bottle but we haven't had the luck this season.

We also have 2-3 players who are getting old such as Fern, Silva and Aguero but we should have enough to carry on and evolve.

I would change things a little bit if I were Guardiola and we do have the options to do that:

eg. Either Jesus (if fit) up front, or Sterling. Put Mahrez on the right. Play Foden. We also have De Bruyne returning to full fitness and David Silva getting fit.

We'll be OK. We whatever the doubters say are very strong defensively although for 2-3 games Delph's sending off has given us an extra problem we could have done without.

Re your first para (haven’t got the will to read a full post that long), I agree 100%, and it’s so frustrating to watch, but of course what about when we do get the first goal, as has happened? We have still in fact made that breakthrough, but then have struggled to maintain it. I know world class shots from distance can happen, but then Kevin is capable of doing that for us too.
 
Right. Deep breath…
First off, nobody bother calling me a happy clapper, because I’m not fucking happy, and I’m not fucking clapping. Definitely not.
Three defeats in about three weeks. That’s abysmal for a team that has any kind of title pretensions, and there’s no two ways about it. But the thing that’s really doing my head in, I’m having real difficulty putting my hand on my heart and saying that we were actually dominated in any of those three matches. Far from it. Of course, the results say we were. But in fact, at Chelsea, we played them off the park right up until the moment they scored. Even in the second half, in fact, I have it even. That’s the match I saw. Against Palace, we’re clearly dominating them, same against Leicester yesterday. That’s why we go a goal up. Our goals didn’t come out of the blue, they were the result of the sort of patient, precise work that we’ve become famous for. But literally as soon as the other side attacks, it’s a stupid fucking goal (o.k, one world-class goal by Palace, one very, very fine strike by Leicester in the mix). Walker was lousy the other day, Delph made a howling, pub side mistake in his positioning yesterday. But you play as a team. More times than people care to recognise, there was at least one player on the pitch having a poor game even last season. But it was not particularly noticed, because we were playing as a team in every sense of the word. You run for your team-mates; you pass for them; and you cover for them when they make a blunder, which they’re going to do. It’s definitional. That’s what a team is. Simply. We’re not cohering properly as a team at present. But in none of the three matches we’ve just thrown away would I allow that we were dominated, in overall play. That is not an excuse, or a justification for what’s just happened.
I’m not convinced by the Fernandinho argument. Yes, he’s a superb player. Yes, he’s very important in the way we play. Last season, we went through a long period in mid-season without David Silva, who is one of the greatest players in the world, and the best player who’s been at this club. We sailed along, winning all the way. Even without him. If anything, winning for him. One player does not make all that difference. Not in a team as good as ours.
One negative advantage of the situation now is that everything is beautifully simple: if we lose the next two matches (and nobody needs telling what the second one represents), then I honestly think it’s gone. Thirteen points? No, really, not possible. Dippers will drop points here and there, sure. But they’d have to fall off a cliff. And we’d have to win virtually every single match till the end of the season. Do we look like a team that’s going to do that, at present?
So we have to win the next two matches, just to tread water.
Oh, and yes, it’s on another thread. But for me, winning a back to back premier league title is definitely more important than winning the CL (not that that’s not important).

Great post.

We also have been without KDB for virtually all of the season, and he is no where near fully fit yet. Then on top of that, we lost Sergio, Ferna, David, Mendy, as well as some squad players like Delph, Zinchenko, Danilo, Gundogan, and Bravo for many games. Added to that the loss of form of Jesus, and currently Bernardo, Walker and Raheem, then it’s a miracle that we’re still in the fight (and imo we are).
 
City needs left-back as soon as possible. Nothing to do in the CL farther than 1/4.
A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.
 
I hope it’s true that Pep was ‘longer’ in the dressing room after the game than normal.
I hope he went batshit crazy, frothing at the mouth crazy, literally nutting walls crazy, anything to get a reaction this weekend & beyond.
 
Not sure if you're having a go at me or just in general, anyway to reiterate in order to fulfil that role a player has to be exceptional and they are hard enough to find as it is let alone in January. All the players have more or less said at some point that adapting to Peps style takes time. So yes summer would have been ideal but who I don't know.
Not at you specifically, a general observation
 
Re your first para (haven’t got the will to read a full post that long), I agree 100%, and it’s so frustrating to watch, but of course what about when we do get the first goal, as has happened? We have still in fact made that breakthrough, but then have struggled to maintain it. I know world class shots from distance can happen, but then Kevin is capable of doing that for us too.
We've not been good, but this is the same squad that got 100 points so we have the answers within us. Next time it will be KDB, or Sane that takes the back of the net off

We should always be confident when we line up and have Sane, KDB and Sterling in our side. We will turn this around.

I tell you what, watch Spurs. They are on fire at the moment. This could be their season. They are only 1 point above us, and we play them at home but I bet they believe in their side.
 
We've not been good, but this is the same squad that got 100 points so we have the answers within us. Next time it will be KDB, or Sane that takes the back of the net off

We should always be confident when we line up and have Sane, KDB and Sterling in our side. We will turn this around.

I tell you what, watch Spurs. They are on fire at the moment. This could be their season. They are only 1 point above us, and we play them at home but I bet they believe in their side.

Well yes, the Spurs at home game will be an excellent comparison, because our home game against them last season was one on the standout matches of the season for me, and will live long on the memory for the utter dominance we showed over a team feted in the media as genuine challengers and the gap between the 2 teams was a chasm. It will be interesting to compare and contrast a season on.
 
Poor up front and midfield, no pace from the team getting from one end of the pitch to the other. Many times we had to hold the ball up on the wings to get anyone into the box.
A lack of movement off the ball for short one touch passes. We kept long balling to the wings, and Leicester were waiting for this. We need to improve fast for any chance of any Cup this season.
 
Do you think Pep has a real plan on how to overcome redoubt? Now I think he doesn't know what players should do against a massive defence.

We’ve been breaching massive (and massed) defences ok, the problem seems to be a) we can’t hold on to the lead, and b) we crumble and the other team grow proportionally when we do concede, and don’t have the fortitude to bounce back - although of course we would’ve at least got a point v Palace if it wasn’t for Walkers rashness
 

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