Are Labour a total shambles now as an opposition?

Jack Hackett said:
Your point about tax being necessary to pay for public services is not at issue here - of course a level of tax is necessary but there is an optimum level that maximises revenues for the exchequer. Labours current policy of hiking taxes will be counter productive in reducing GDP and so resulting in lower levels of tax revenues for the exchequer
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It is this point that never gets addressed, there are always accusations of being a heartless bastard, yet when it's
pointed out that increasing tax over and above the median accepted as the tipping point,results in lower tax takes,
then it means even less for the projects apparently in desperate need.
Then there's the airy fairy 'We can do it if there's a common will,' etc; Well yes, we can increase taxes, but we'll
receive less tax by doing so.
Nobody will give out any figures, so it's idealistic dreaming, basically.
 
Jack Hackett said:
You gave no examples of anything merely a list of countries that a cursory check showed you were wrong

Stating the basic macro economic fact that increasing income tax takes demand out of the economy leading to reduced GDP is not ‘right wing’ or any other political perspective but a fact

So, publish the data and the sources for your list of countries and show the following

- average GDP growth over last 6 years compared to the change in the tax burden

Lastly, if there is a nasty party in politics it is now Corbyn’s Labour full of Jew hating scumbags and misogynists along with their fellow travelling Marxists, Leninists, Stalinists and Trots now allowed back into the party.

Socialism is an evil political philosophy responsible for over 100 million deaths in the 20th century and still killing people in Venezuela by Maduro’s death squads

Anyone buying into it us either brutally ignorant, supremely credulous or downright evil

Which is it for you?
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They were never disallowed from the party, they left of their own accord when they saw the direction Labour were heading. Once they saw that Corbyn had a chance of becoming leader, they flooded back in.
 
Jack Hackett said:
Lastly, if there is a nasty party in politics it is now Corbyn’s Labour full of Jew hating scumbags and misogynists along with their fellow travelling Marxists, Leninists, Stalinists and Trots now allowed back into the party.
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You forgot traitors, malcontents, snowflakes, degenerates, inept, duplicitous, under achieving class warriors, lazy and dissolute, consumed with hatred for those that have bettered themselves and out to drag us all down to their miserable level.
 
The perfect fumble said:
You forgot traitors, malcontents, snowflakes, degenerates, inept, duplicitous, under achieving class warriors, lazy and dissolute, consumed with hatred for those that have bettered themselves and out to drag us all down to their miserable level.
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That was implicit

At least you have a sense of humour
 
Isn't it obvious that the anti-semitism allegations against Labour are pure nonsense and boil down to a smear campaign?

It's not because the press is saying it that one should believe it, heck au contraire taking in mind British media.
 
FlemishDuck said:
Isn't it obvious that the anti-semitism allegations against Labour are pure nonsense and boil down to a smear campaign?

It's not because the press is saying it that one should believe it, heck au contraire taking in mind British media.
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Even though they themselves admitted that there’s a problem?
 
Jack Hackett said:
That’s nonsense

In the 80s many were kicked out by Kinnock
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That was the militant tendency and it wasn’t really an ideology as such. More like a bunch of trouble causers led by a man masquerading as a socialist while driving around in a jag, womanising and drinking champagne in night clubs.
 
FlemishDuck said:
Isn't it obvious that the anti-semitism allegations against Labour are pure nonsense and boil down to a smear campaign?

It's not because the press is saying it that one should believe it, heck au contraire taking in mind British media.
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What makes you think that?....

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8069641/labour-anti-semitism-jeremy-corbyn-simon-wiesenthal-center/

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CORBYN RACE SHAME
Labour’s anti-Semitism scandal ‘is one of world’s worst anti-Jewish outbreaks this year’

The respected Simon Wiesenthal Center said the party's crisis was the fourth worst anti-Semitic incident of the year
 
2sheikhs said:
Even though they themselves admitted that there’s a problem?
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But no more than in society at large.

The devil is in the detail.

Actually the detail shows Labour members and supporters are less anti-Semitic than the general populace, but there you go.

Whatever did happen to that list of anti-Semites the Met has I wonder.
 
FlemishDuck said:
Isn't it obvious that the anti-semitism allegations against Labour are pure nonsense and boil down to a smear campaign?

It's not because the press is saying it that one should believe it, heck au contraire taking in mind British media.
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Well, no it isn't obvious, as they've stated that there is a problem, unless they like to
smear themselves.
 
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