VAR (PL introduction 2019)

[Henkeman]

As I've already said mate, you don't need to track the ball if you have as wide angle a lens as possible and as high a frame rate as possible. Neither do you need to anticipate when you're tracking across one axis at multiple times the speed.

Yes, you keep saying it, and it doesn't alter the fact you cannot be perfectly following the line. There will be an angle as it is behind the movements of the players by definition. In order to account for that angle, it will have to be tracked in three dimensions.

You've studiously avoided commenting on why it is that they don't just have a camera in the goalposts for goal line technology and have those multiple cameras around the stadium tracking the ball. It's because it doesn't work, due to the offset of angles, no matter how wide angle the camera might be.

 

[aguero93:20]

Yes, you keep saying it, and it doesn't alter the fact you cannot be perfectly following the line. There will be an angle as it is behind the movements of the players by definition. In order to account for that angle, it will have to be tracked in three dimensions.

You've studiously avoided commenting on why it is that they don't just have a camera in the goalposts for goal line technology and have those multiple cameras around the stadium tracking the ball. It's because it doesn't work, due to the offset of angles, no matter how wide angle the camera might be.

You can't have just one or two cameras for goal line technology as you don't have the height to avoid being blocked by bodies
, you're right up close and you're looking for a system that makes a decision without human involvement. Completely different. The greater distance and height you have the more you capture.

 

[Henkeman]

You can't have just one or two cameras for goal line technology as you don't have the height to avoid being blocked by bodies
, you're right up close and you're looking for a system that makes a decision without human involvement. Completely different. The greater distance and height you have the more you capture.

No, I'm saying that your system is not going to be level, and will be offset every single second it is used because it is responding to movement. The moment it is not level, it is incorrect. Not only does it not work, it is impossible that it can work.

That's why the only solution would be three dimensional tracking. Which is the Star Trek solution at present.

Just to put the side on camera into context, if it's one degree off, then by the other side of the field the difference will be approaching three feet away from the perpendicular. It's a lot.

 

[caseball]

They could just change the offside law to something like ice hockey has. You've then got a static line and two moving objects, instead of a constantly moving line, several moving objects and a judgment call. It would also encourage bus parkers to park higher up the pitch.

 

[blueinsa]

You saw tonight how they will manipulate its use to suit still and it will solve nothing and cause even more arguments because they are just fucking cheating twats.

How is that not a penalty? How does dean not even review it on the screen and if he does, how can what is a foul anywhere else on the pitch not be a penalty?

First time it might go in our favour and we get fucked over as expected.

 

[mcfcfc]

You saw tonight how they will manipulate its use to suit still and it will solve nothing and cause even more arguments because they are just fucking cheating twats.

How is that not a penalty? How does dean not even review it on the screen and if he does, how can what is a foul anywhere else on the pitch not be a penalty?

First time it might go in our favour and we get fucked over as expected.

The part that really annoy me the most îs when they don t go to check the screen... And for the penalty it was very clear tgat îs was a penalty ... They will just manipulate to the Point when will give up on the System because won t do the job properly not because the ref are shit as fuck / bent and can t do their fucking job

 

[BlueHammer85]

Will take a few years still to get it totally right. Why we have so many knicker wetting fans nowadays who can’t allow any form of error at all does my head in - yet they’re happier with a ref guessing whilst 22 players are cheating and diving. No thanks. Bring on VAR and be patient.

 

[mat]

What have we learned from VAR this week?

Penalty claims only reviewed and given if involves a spud/dipper/rag.

If Jon Moss is the bastard in the bunker expect a fucking stupid decision.

 

[cleavers]

Will take a few years still to get it totally right.

Why though ? All it needs is the fans to know what is the issue, its quite simple, so let us hear it.

Tonight a penalty, looked clear first time to me, is referred , but not given, and I don't know why its not given.

It need's to be clear to the paying supporter, so it needs to be on the PA in the stadium, rugby and cricket can do this, so why is football trying to hide things ?

 

[FantasyIreland]

VAR is shite,fuck it off.