Yvette Cooper and David Lammy from Labour, Ruth Davidson from the Tories and Vince Cable from Lib Dem’s have all done themselves proud in the last 2 years.
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Yvette Cooper and David Lammy from Labour, Ruth Davidson from the Tories and Vince Cable from Lib Dem’s have all done themselves proud in the last 2 years.
Bluemanc100
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Thornberry, Long Bailey, Reyner have all a too passive aggressive comms delivery, but Abbott’s, along with the finger wagging and eye rolling won’t win her many votes outside of Hackney. His Majesty Sir Kier-Hardie Starmer has excellent comms, his problem is the bollocks that mostly falls from his mouth.
Makes me fucking cringe... a smug bitch who is weak under pressure... Maybe another one with dirt on Corbyn..
I'm sure Abbot must have because she is a loose cannon and I see no other reason for her continued involvement in their party's politics unless she knows something about Jezzer
Bluemanc100
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Yvette Cooper and David Lammy from Labour, Ruth Davidson from the Tories and Vince Cable from Lib Dem’s have all done themselves proud in the last 2 years.
Are you serious?
Are you serious?
Yes very.
His speeches on the Windrush Scandal and Brexit recently have been brilliant.
Why do you disagree?
Bluemanc100
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He doesn't suit the Labour narrative.. attended an Anti-Semitism rally much to the disgust of the party who allegedly tried to de-select him afterwardsYes very.
His speeches on the Windrush Scandal and Brexit recently have been brilliant.
Why do you disagree?
I don't see him getting the support needed from your party faithful.. Yvette Cooper maybe
He doesn't suit the Labour narrative.. attended an Anti-Semitism rally much to the disgust of the party who allegedly tried to de-select him afterwards
I don't see him getting the support needed from your party faithful.. Yvette Cooper maybe
Not my party faithful. I’m a floating voter, I have voted Labour the most but currently am going to vote Lib Dem.
The question wasn’t about the party faithful, it was those that have been leaders and I think he has on those two subjects I listed.
Fame Monster
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She's an embarrassment to the Labour Party.
Yes very.
His speeches on the Windrush Scandal and Brexit recently have been brilliant.
Why do you disagree?
He spoke extremely well on Windrush. The trouble is he repeatedly tweets racist stuff himself - most recently with one describing Rod Liddle (who is an idiot) as "the walking, living, breathing personification and definition of white middle class privilege".
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blueinsa
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He spoke extremely well on Windrush. The trouble is he repeatedly tweets racist stuff himself - most recently with one describing Rod Liddle (who is an idiot) as "the walking, living, breathing personification and definition of white middle class privilege".
Its all fine though mate.
Middle aged and white is there to be abused as and when they see fit.
Do you mean the same “under current” that folk have suggested is against young Raheem?
Along those lines yes
Is there a reason you have posted a link to an article on legal aid and Nigel Evans?
What worrying undercurrent are you referring to and why cant you just tell us what it is?
Yes a bit of a tangent but it was just highlighting how the incompetence of fuckwit Grayling caught out a member of his own party. I like probably many others found it highly amusing, however I would have been even better if this had been Failing Grayling himself.
He spoke extremely well on Windrush. The trouble is he repeatedly tweets racist stuff himself - most recently with one describing Rod Liddle (who is an idiot) as "the walking, living, breathing personification and definition of white middle class privilege".
I don’t think that’s racist.
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blueinsa
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I don’t think that’s racist.
Anything that mentions the colour of a persons skin in a negative and that tweet is a negative is racist.
"the walking, living, breathing personification and definition of black criminal gang bangers"
Thats racist as is the tweet he made.
Anything that mentions the colour of a persons skin in a negative and that tweet is a negative is racist.
"the walking, living, breathing personification and definition of black criminal gang bangers"
Thats racist as is the tweet he made.
On the flip side when David Stark said on QT in 2011 that American black gangster culture had spread to here and youths were behaving poorly as a result, I didn’t think that was racist either.
Both what Stark said and what Lammy said are 100% true.
Lammy’s was in response to Liddle saying black fathers had failed.
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On the flip side when David Stark said on QT in 2011 that American black gangster culture had spread to here and youths were behaving poorly as a result, I didn’t think that was racist either.
Both what Stark said and what Lammy said are 100% true.
Lammy’s was in response to Liddle saying black fathers had failed.
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At work so cannot watch.
Can you be bothered to summarise please?
Watch it later when you can mate but i think he hits the nail on the head perfectly on the issue of so called straight, white middle aged privilege or whatever other names some want to give it.
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I could maybe agree with the first three but Vince Cable?Yvette Cooper and David Lammy from Labour, Ruth Davidson from the Tories and Vince Cable from Lib Dem’s have all done themselves proud in the last 2 years.
Any leader of a party that deliberately antagonises 17.4 million potential voters by going balls out in favour of
the lesser number is never going to increase his party's seat count. By all means have your own views, but to make
remaining in the EU one of your pledges after seeing that vote lose, isn't doing him proud by any stretch.
Even Jezza has got more sense than that.
I could maybe agree with the first three but Vince Cable?
Any leader of a party that deliberately antagonises 17.4 million potential voters by going balls out in favour of
the lesser number is never going to increase his party's seat count. By all means have your own views, but to make
remaining in the EU one of your pledges after seeing that vote lose, isn't doing him proud by any stretch.
Even Jezza has got more sense than that.
His pledge is another referendum, he specifically said on Marr that he would never just cancel Brexit as it’s for the people to now decide as things are clearer.
That is doing him proud, obviously you disagree.
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"Any leader of a party that deliberately antagonises 16.whatever million voters..."Any leader of a party that deliberately antagonises 17.4 million potential voters by going balls out in favour of
the lesser number is never going to increase his party's seat count.