Superbia is all games in all competitions not just away league games.That’s what Superbia is.
Superbia is all games in all competitions not just away league games.
And as far as I know Superbia is only open to people with lots of points anyway so you can't just chuck a load of cash at the club to gain membership.
That’s what Superbia is.
That’s what they pay their money for, I sit club Celtic and I hate it when someone with a standard ticket or off a bus gets a ticket before me, it’s not right, same as everybody that sit in main stand should get before us n we should get before busses and standardsTWENTY PERCENT of our tickets go to corporate? Fuck me sideways I didn’t know it was that much. And someone said “if it ain’t broke”... it’s really fucking broken if that’s the case.
Superbia has been closed for about four years I believeSuperbia is all games in all competitions not just away league games.
And as far as I know Superbia is only open to people with lots of points anyway so you can't just chuck a load of cash at the club to gain membership.
Lets say someone won millions on the lottery or was a very successful business person and went to city and said look, I've just won/got all the this money and want to go to all home and away games but I've not got a SC or very many points, is there anything you can do? Would the club turn them away and say sorry theres nothing we can do as you need to earn the right to go to away games or would they say step right this way sir, buy a box, tunnel club etc and we'll throw in 25k points and as many away tickets as you fancy?
the system is only broke to those who don't have the points. I am saying the system rendered my points irrelevant so I had to make a choice to participate or not, I didn't ask or expect someone to wipe my arse for me cos I didn't like where it left me. of course I was going to get a ticket in the end but because of the system I had to wait until I qualified, once I had I had very little choice as to where to sit and what seats were available, I had to take where I could be accommodated, as it happens they were bloody expensive. again that was the risk I took, I didn't ask to be given another seat cos I am "18 to 25" or "it's not fair , I can't catch up".You didn’t moan or scream? You didn’t and don’t have too because you’ve got 23k points. You’re hardly putting yourself in a position where your going to struggle for tickets at this moment by not joining the cup scheme but you seem to be looking for some kind of recognition for the fact that you’ve dropped out of the scheme.
The system is broke, it gets manipulated from various angles and doing the less glamourous games no longer helps you catch up as it once did. There are more SC members than ever nowadays and we also treat those with a few quid better than most other teams in the country too.
You’d think a fellow blue like yourself would show a little empathy for regular match goers but no, you much prefer to tell your fellow supporter that they’re not supporting enough and should stop moaning. You’d have a totally different outlook I reckon if you were one of us nobody’s that aren’t loyal enough and had 15k points.
The system needs looking at, as does the amount of tickets we give to the corporates and any supporter who thinks it’s ok that tickets go in the hands of the new rich breed of fan ahead of genuine supporters needs to sort their heads out.
the system is only broke to those who don't have the points. I am saying the system rendered my points irrelevant so I had to make a choice to participate or not, I didn't ask or expect someone to wipe my arse for me cos I didn't like where it left me. of course I was going to get a ticket in the end but because of the system I had to wait until I qualified, once I had I had very little choice as to where to sit and what seats were available, I had to take where I could be accommodated, as it happens they were bloody expensive. again that was the risk I took, I didn't ask to be given another seat cos I am "18 to 25" or "it's not fair , I can't catch up".
as for this bit of your post
"The system is broke, it gets manipulated from various angles and doing the less glamorous games no longer helps you catch up as it once did."
yes you catch up, it will take a while (as it did for us all once) but there are loads of games going to low or no points, when they do, just like me with the cup scheme, you need to make a choice.
sadly the system can't do anything about corporate sales. thats a different animal altogether.
I imagine the club will argue that our hospitality is a harder sell (fewer wealthy fans, for now). You'll get a knighthood if you manage to cut the hospitality allocation in half.I've been looking at how other clubs do it.
Rags have a ballot, with about 10% going to their hospitality members and about 80% going to season ticket holders. Depending on the game, 5-10% are kept by the club.
Liverpool do it on away games attended in the previous season. 12+ gets you to the top of the queue.
Arsenal use a similar system based on away games but it's done on current plus previous 2 years rather than just the previous year's, like Liverpool
Spurs & Chelsea use loyalty points, with both using differential points to reward different types of games. At Chelsea it's a fixed scale with home and away games counting. 1 for top 6 games & CL/EL knock-out stages, 3 for other PL games and 5 for domestic cup and Euro group stage games. All given for home and away and it's current season only so no carry-over of points.
Spurs depends on the distance generally but all top 6 games, plus other London ones (West Ham/Watford) are 1 point. Somewhere like Newcastle & Burnley would be 4 points. They use a current plus 4 previous years system. They currently give just under 10% to hospitality members but that's going up to 13% when they finally move to the new stadium. So compared to them and the rags the near 20% we give hospitality is well out of line.
I quite like Chelsea's.
You didn’t moan or scream? You didn’t and don’t have too because you’ve got 23k points. You’re hardly putting yourself in a position where your going to struggle for tickets at this moment by not joining the cup scheme but you seem to be looking for some kind of recognition for the fact that you’ve dropped out of the scheme.
The system is broke, it gets manipulated from various angles and doing the less glamourous games no longer helps you catch up as it once did. There are more SC members than ever nowadays and we also treat those with a few quid better than most other teams in the country too.
You’d think a fellow blue like yourself would show a little empathy for regular match goers but no, you much prefer to tell your fellow supporter that they’re not supporting enough and should stop moaning. You’d have a totally different outlook I reckon if you were one of us nobody’s that aren’t loyal enough and had 15k points.
The system needs looking at, as does the amount of tickets we give to the corporates and any supporter who thinks it’s ok that tickets go in the hands of the new rich breed of fan ahead of genuine supporters needs to sort their heads out.
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Perhaps he has 23K points because he went to so many games over a long period of time. The system isn't broken, it rewards loyalty over a long period of time. The only modification needed is to introduce a rolling system so that only the last 5 years count. Then the moaners, like yourself, could catch up, provided you were prepared to do all the aways you could.
Why ahould you get credit for games you attended 15 years ago?the system is only broke to those who don't have the points.
Guess so.In the Chelsea system, what happens for the first game of the season? Is it just a free for all?
No, they base it on the previous season for the first 2/3 games if it's a big ones, one of my best mates used to go to Chelsea for years. They have domestic and European away season tickets too.Guess so.
Are you thick?
I’ve not questioned Bill on his points total and how he got them.
I’ve explained how the current system is unfair and it needs tweaking. Something that you agree with.
We need a system for today, not 10,20 years ago.
Let's take a hypothetical situation involving two fans.Colin, is the reverse not true also? Why shouldn't you get points for matches attended 15 years ago?