UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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A translation would be good......
I didn't hazard myself to make a translation because some "specialized terms" in law language could be mistranslated.

According to Google translation (not the more reliable, i know) :

The Belgian courts, seized by a player's agent and fans of PSG and Manchester City, declared itself incompetent to judge the compatibility of the financial fair play (FPF) with the European law, has one learned Friday from concordant sources.

In a judgment delivered Thursday, the Brussels Court of Appeal "decided that the Belgian courts were not competent", as at first instance, told AFP a spokesman for the court.

It also did not consider it necessary to question European justice on the legality of financial fair play.

"As the court did not examine the lawfulness of the FPF in the light of EU law in particular, its decision in no way leads to the conclusion of the validity of the regulation," responded in a statement the two plaintiffs' lawyers, Martin Hissel and Jean-Louis Dupont. The latter is at the origin of the "Bosman judgment" in 1995, which liberalized the transfer market.

According to these two lawyers, the court found that their clients were only "indirect" victims of financial fair play and thus declared themselves "territorially incompetent".

"It would be necessary to attack UEFA at its seat and to have the question examined by a Swiss judge, but we would no longer be in front of a community judge," Hissel told AFP, as he thinks "it is not a coincidence" if the European football federation has settled in Switzerland.

He emphasized studying the possibility of an appeal in cassation.

Established in 2011, then groomed several times, the financial fair play imposes on European football clubs that their expenses are entirely covered by their own revenues - with a certain flexibility however - under penalty of going from simple blame to 'excluding competitions.

Objective: to clean up finances to promote the long-term viability of the football economy.

The plaintiffs' lawyers argue that financial fair play goes against EU competition law in that it restricts investment, which is prohibited.

Indeed, with this rule, an owner - such as Qatar's sovereign fund with PSG or that of Abu Dhabi with Manchester City - can not inject his funds as he sees fit.

According to them, the rule has also had the effect of "fossilizing the structure of the market" in favor of already established clubs, those with the largest incomes, such as Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus of Turin or Bayern Munich, to the detriment "new entrants".

The European Commission, guardian of competition rules in the EU, granted in 2012 its support to the FPF by signing a joint declaration with Michel Platini, then president of UEFA.

According to a spokesperson contacted by AFP, European Commission considers "that financial fair play can be a useful tool in the context of good financial governance".
 
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Are those Liverpool fans ?

When and where did it happen ?

I guess it was some years after the FSG takeover and before their new successful cycle ?
 
Ah, so not quite how our resident PSG fan put it! What next though I wonder?
Well, it is not the first time those plaintiffs are being said they are not "direct" victims of FFP if i remember correctly.

I guess it will really get serious when a club or maybe a sponsor (who will get a lesser ROI if the club is banned for example) linked to a club sanctionned by FFP will go directly.
 
Are those Liverpool fans ?

When and where did it happen ?

I guess it was some years after the FSG takeover and before their new successful cycle ?
This was last week...

Nah this was apparently from 2007-08 and I photoshopped Q.S.I in place of D.I.C(Dubai International Capital)... I'm most proud of the "1 QID better than 2?" edit though.


They wanted to be owned by Dubai and sponsored by Emirates Airlines no doubt, yet they preach to high heaven about City's ownership.
 
When is that starting?
I guess being able to mount a title challenge and being relevant in Champions League is a success for them.

I have already said it here but, while i had no sentiment about this club previously, i really think they have the worse fanbase in PL and one of the most annoying worldwide.
They really remind me the fanbase of Marseille. Loud mouths, always talking about past titles (because they can't win title anymore), talking about themselves as the best fans and real purists (the famous Anfield atmosphere lol) and always whining whenever they lose.
 
This was last week...

Nah this was apparently from 2007-08 and I photoshopped Q.S.I in place of D.I.C(Dubai International Capital)... I'm most proud of the "1 QID better than 2?" edit though.


They wanted to be owned by Dubai and sponsored by Emirates Airlines no doubt, yet they preach to high heaven about City's ownership.
Same thing with Marseille fans here.

They were so excited and already making fantasy teams when there was the rumour of Iran takeover.

Were already making essays about the virtue of Iran compared to the vile Qatar. By the way, i'm more sensible to Iran position than Qatar and other GCC countries, but it is still funny the lenght some fans can go to justify their particular owner investment being good while the one from their rival is so bad.
 
Iran is a fine country and its people are lovely.

They own they re own banks and everyfing....
Yup.

I'm leaning more towards Iran position in that part of the world than the "regimes" our leaders are supporting like GCC countries for example.

However, i don't really think the whole ayatollah ruling is particularly good but if (our leaders) they didn't kill and overthrow Mossadegh, it would have been the model in the region.
 
Yup.

I'm leaning more towards Iran position in that part of the world than the "regimes" our leaders are supporting like GCC countries for example.

However, i don't really think the whole ayatollah ruling is particularly good but if (our leaders) they didn't kill and overthrow Mossadegh, it would have been the model in the region.
Yep Iran's great, a country with a fine sense of right and wrong. I was pleased to read recently that a disgusting young couple were arrested in a shopping mall in Northern Iraq when they were spotted hugging after the man had proposed to the woman. If only our soft on crime authorities could take a leaf out of their book.
 
Yep Iran's great, a country with a fine sense of right and wrong. I was pleased to read recently that a disgusting young couple were arrested in a shopping mall in Northern Iraq when they were spotted hugging after the man had proposed to the woman. If only our soft on crime authorities could take a leaf out of their book.
You are just emphasizing what I'm saying about our leaders guilt of overthrowing someone like Mossadegh which in the end (after the rule of the Shah) brought the islamic clerics in power.

So yeah, our soft on crime authorities are very much involved in that incident. Destabilizing countries left and right when he suits our agenda and exacerbating differences which brings extremist in power.
 
Yep Iran's great, a country with a fine sense of right and wrong. I was pleased to read recently that a disgusting young couple were arrested in a shopping mall in Northern Iraq when they were spotted hugging after the man had proposed to the woman. If only our soft on crime authorities could take a leaf out of their book.
I suspect, just like Turkey, the lovely, pro western, religion-lite people have migrated to the West.
The funniest (and not so funny) couple I have known was an Iranian muslim girl and a Jewish guy in London. Makes Romeo and Juliet look like an arranged marriage.
 
You are just emphasizing what I'm saying about our leaders guilt of overthrowing someone like Mossadegh which in the end (after the rule of the Shah) brought the islamic clerics in power.

So yeah, our soft on crime authorities are very much involved in that incident. Destabilizing countries left and right when he suits our agenda and exacerbating differences which brings extremist in power.
Let me guess ..... it's all America's fault ?
 
Let me guess ..... it's all America's fault ?
Let's end the off-topic here.

Look up history and old and new imperialist countries are widely involved in what is going on there. Not USA only but they are a big factor in this indeed.I guess you are from USA if you assume i'm only talking about them but the european colonial powers were in my mind too.

You were the one bringing up "our soft on crimes authorities" and making sarcastic comment about Iranian society. I have just reminded you "our soft on crimes authorities" are not so innocent here.
 
Yup.

I'm leaning more towards Iran position in that part of the world than the "regimes" our leaders are supporting like GCC countries for example.

However, i don't really think the whole ayatollah ruling is particularly good but if (our leaders) they didn't kill and overthrow Mossadegh, it would have been the model in the region.

Iran are Persians not arabs, they share the same religion(a majority) and are Asian. That s it, they are unique and diverse,lovely people and were great with the Irish fans when we went there to try to qualify for the 2002WC finals.
 
Iran are Persians not arabs, they share the same religion(a majority) and are Asian. That s it, they are unique and diverse,lovely people and were great with the Irish fans when we went there to try to qualify for the 2002WC finals.
I know they are not arabs and even if they were, it would be no problem either. We were talking about politics here. Most of the times, the people has little to no say when it comes to (geo)politic moves of the ruler. Even in the so called free world.

Simple example outside of war : french people voted No in a referendum about European Constitution and they ignored it and repackaged it with the Treaty of Lisbon.

I'm not one to villify the people of a nation for the action of the ruling people. France has done and still does a lot of bad deeds around the world but the people is uninformed, misinformed or unaware.
 
Iran are Persians not arabs, they share the same religion(a majority) and are Asian. That s it, they are unique and diverse,lovely people and were great with the Irish fans when we went there to try to qualify for the 2002WC finals.

I know they are not arabs and even if they were, it would be no problem either. We were talking about politics here. Most of the times, the people has little to no say when it comes to (geo)politic moves of the ruler. Even in the so called free world.

Simple example outside of war : french people voted No in a referendum about European Constitution and they ignored it and repackaged it with the Treaty of Lisbon.

I'm not one to villify the people of a nation for the action of the ruling people. France has done and still does a lot of bad deeds around the world but the people is uninformed, misinformed or unaware.

Off topic is \/ \/ \/ way.......
 
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