Liverpool thread 2018/19

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jrb said:
They are now going all Sharmishta Chakrabarti about City.

Click on the RAWK link to the *DIC pull out of deal/Gillett AND Hicks to take over?* thread, below.

And their reaction to it.

RAWK.
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Basically.

Losing to Manchester United would be football. Losing to Manchester City is fucking politics.

I hate them irrationally, but it isn't because of their achievements on the pitch. They're funded by a country: by the oil underground in a country ruled by literal and genuine, on camera with the help of the police in uniform, torturers. Neither of these things are OK, neither of these things have any precedent.

There's no comparison with any other football club in the history of this sport. Not with Blackburn's millions, not with the Moores brothers. Maybe with Roman Abramovic who is a union buster and rich on stolen money – but even he's not in it for geopolitical whitewashing of a whole country's reputation. Certainly something dodgy enough to see him denied a visa last year.

On BlueMoon there's absolutely no criticism WHATSOEVER, none at all, nothing, ever, of their owners. On the contrary, I've seen posts there literally defending torture. "It's a Middle Eastern country, what do you expect?" "Well, do you think any country has a 100% clean record?" and this sort of thing.

And that's sportswashing working. That's using club loyalty, which is irrational regardless of the club, to normalise something fucked. A real, genuine club with history and idiosyncrasy has been turned into a plastic, hollow franchise whose success means nothing to anyone else but whose entire existence makes the success of every other club worth a little less.

Losing to Manchester United is football. Losing to Manchester City is politics.


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RAWK.(f***ing hypocrites! they were desperate for DIC to buy Liverpool FC)

DIC pull out of deal/Gillett AND Hicks to take over?

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=162907.0

Consortium pulls out of Reds bid
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Dubai International Capital has ended its interest in taking over Liverpool.


The announcement follows the failure of the club's board to formally accept DIC's bid in the wake of a second offer from American George Gillett.

Chief executive Sameer Al Ansari said the DIC group was disappointed but added: "We won't overpay for assets."

DIC had been their most likely suitor and entered into discussions with the club late last year with Sheikh Mohammed the central figure in the investment arm of Dubai's government.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6318091.Zstm
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I only skimmed randomly through that bizarre rawk thread, but it strikes me that two things didn’t exist in those days.....
.... So called ‘FFP’ and hand wringing, heart rending, tear stained scouse concern about human rights in the UAE.
 
jrb said:
They are now going all Sharmishta Chakrabarti about City.

Click on the RAWK link to the *DIC pull out of deal/Gillett AND Hicks to take over?* thread, below.

And their reaction to it.

RAWK.
————————————

Basically.

Losing to Manchester United would be football. Losing to Manchester City is fucking politics.

I hate them irrationally, but it isn't because of their achievements on the pitch. They're funded by a country: by the oil underground in a country ruled by literal and genuine, on camera with the help of the police in uniform, torturers. Neither of these things are OK, neither of these things have any precedent.

There's no comparison with any other football club in the history of this sport. Not with Blackburn's millions, not with the Moores brothers. Maybe with Roman Abramovic who is a union buster and rich on stolen money – but even he's not in it for geopolitical whitewashing of a whole country's reputation. Certainly something dodgy enough to see him denied a visa last year.

On BlueMoon there's absolutely no criticism WHATSOEVER, none at all, nothing, ever, of their owners. On the contrary, I've seen posts there literally defending torture. "It's a Middle Eastern country, what do you expect?" "Well, do you think any country has a 100% clean record?" and this sort of thing.

And that's sportswashing working. That's using club loyalty, which is irrational regardless of the club, to normalise something fucked. A real, genuine club with history and idiosyncrasy has been turned into a plastic, hollow franchise whose success means nothing to anyone else but whose entire existence makes the success of every other club worth a little less.

Losing to Manchester United is football. Losing to Manchester City is politics.


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RAWK.(f***ing hypocrites! they were desperate for DIC to buy Liverpool FC)

DIC pull out of deal/Gillett AND Hicks to take over?

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=162907.0

Consortium pulls out of Reds bid
_41255731_liverpool_203.gif

Dubai International Capital has ended its interest in taking over Liverpool.


The announcement follows the failure of the club's board to formally accept DIC's bid in the wake of a second offer from American George Gillett.

Chief executive Sameer Al Ansari said the DIC group was disappointed but added: "We won't overpay for assets."

DIC had been their most likely suitor and entered into discussions with the club late last year with Sheikh Mohammed the central figure in the investment arm of Dubai's government.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6318091.Zstm
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Also no mention anywhere that the country of their owners (USA) has a worse human rights record than the UAE according to the Observer Human Rights index or that Amnesty International has slammed the USA for its policy of torture and the fact they exectuted 23 people last year compared to the UAE where just one person was executed. Liverpool fans take hypocrisy to new levels.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...red-fined-money-laundering-sanctions-breaches

Funny i seemed to miss this being reported by the BBC and Sky at the time.

So just how much filthy lucre needs to be laundered to be fined over a Billion Dollars?

Seems most of this cash was being funnelled into the Middle East.....Syria

I'm sure our whiter than white scouse friends are more than happy to be associated with such a company and take their laundered money.

Hypocrisy be their name.
 
scousemanc said:
City aren't funded by oil, by a country or by any individual.

Their total revenue is £500m, generated from the following sources:
Commercial revenue £232m
Broadcast revenue £211m
Matchday income £57m

City is a successful business which make a profit every year and has no requirement for any investment by its owners. That is thanks to its strategic vision and the commercial acumen of its management who have been able to successfully grow the business in line with its success on the pitch.
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Oil revenues make up less than 60 per cent of GDP in the UAE and within ten years are predicted to be around 36 per cent. The whole point of the Abu Dhabi project is to reduce dependency on oil revenues. Sheikh Mansour has almost trebled the value of his investment in City. He is a successful businessman. This means that none of the money supporting City is actually "oil money." Perhaps the football authorities would be happier if clubs just followed the Bolton Wanderers model.
 
sam 1980 said:
7 it was 10 but we played the next day. At that time we were 3rd and spurs were 2nd 9 points behind them
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If that’s the standard they weren’t top of the league this weekend when they played before us, but they seemed to believe they were...

In fact they haven’t been top since Early March I don’t think in that case.
 
scousemanc said:
City aren't funded by oil, by a country or by any individual.

Their total revenue is £500m, generated from the following sources:
Commercial revenue £232m
Broadcast revenue £211m
Matchday income £57m

City is a successful business which make a profit every year and has no requirement for any investment by its owners. That is thanks to its strategic vision and the commercial acumen of its management who have been able to successfully grow the business in line with its success on the pitch.
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Its the fourth year we are using our money earned! It was said that we would massively invest when taken over and now self sufficient!
 
Just copied this off a first time visit to Cult Corner. Just like Rhyl, I won't be going again.

I really hope Pep fucks off soon, because the thought of needing to get close to, or more than 100 points and still not be guaranteed the league is horrible.

Like these vermin are gonna get near this season's points tally again with VAR coming in.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
Also no mention anywhere that the country of their owners (USA) has a worse human rights record than the UAE according to the Observer Human Rights index or that Amnesty International has slammed the USA for its policy of torture and the fact they exectuted 23 people last year compared to the UAE where just one person was executed. Liverpool fans take hypocrisy to new levels.
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If anyone's bringing politics into it, it's them.
We're just happy to show them how football should be played.
 
I'm just waiting for IF they somehow win the champions league and Lose the prem, they'll be on about how much harder it is to win the champions league and that the league means nothing ahhaha
 
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