The Conservative Party

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I thought it involved a tunnel and some explosives...

And some Barcelona plates...

 

[The perfect fumble]

The sovereign must act on the advice of ministers and on that alone. Unless ministers act, the sovereign is powerless.
The way to remove a reluctant PM is a no confidence vote in HOC. If PM still would not resign, we potentially have a full blown constitutional crisis. In practice, the House would be paralised and the gov could not act.

Indeed, but she has survived a no confidence vote in the House of Commons.

This is not a constitutional crisis and the Tories will ensure it never becomes one, because if it does, it might well trigger a general election and that's the last thing they want.

A large number of Tory MPs are frightened of the blood and guts Tory membership, using them to oust May is a double edged sword, it might well cut May's throat but it'll also cut theirs.

May is finished, but the manner of her departing very much dictates who succeeds her.

Put simply, everyone agrees May is terrible, but for different reasons, she is still PM because there is no unifying candidate that can beat Boris.

Arseholes like Hunt are jockeying in to position to take up that second spot on the shortlist and Gove is doing his best Wormtongue, but the simple fact is that if Johnson gets on the ballot of two candidates submitted to the membership, he'd romp home with the shire Tories, then we'd have the fat fool as PM. A sizeable number of Tory MPs would walk in those circumstances, the party could very well split.

So, for the time being, May squats in Downing Street like the incompetent shithouse she is, because all roads to booting her out end up with the King of shithouses.

 

[Chippy_boy]

So, for the time being, May squats in Downing Street like the incompetent shithouse she is, because all roads to booting her out end up with the King of shithouses.

I think he's already leading the Labour party mate.

 

[KS55]

Indeed, but she has survived a no confidence vote in the House of Commons.

This is not a constitutional crisis and the Tories will ensure it never becomes one, because if it does, it might well trigger a general election and that's the last thing they want.

A large number of Tory MPs are frightened of the blood and guts Tory membership, using them to oust May is a double edged sword, it might well cut May's throat but it'll also cut theirs.

May is finished, but the manner of her departing very much dictates who succeeds her.

Put simply, everyone agrees May is terrible, but for different reasons, she is still PM because there is no unifying candidate that can beat Boris.

Arseholes like Hunt are jockeying in to position to take up that second spot on the shortlist and Gove is doing his best Wormtongue, but the simple fact is that if Johnson gets on the ballot of two candidates submitted to the membership, he'd romp home with the shire Tories, then we'd have the fat fool as PM. A sizeable number of Tory MPs would walk in those circumstances, the party could very well split.

So, for the time being, May squats in Downing Street like the incompetent shithouse she is, because all roads to booting her out end up with the King of shithouses.

Yup. Cant argue with that. Who on earth have they got as potential leader, other than Boris? ......er.....

 

[bluethrunthru]

Theresa Mao PMSL

 

[Banned Tosspot]

Theresa Mao PMSL

Easily amused.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I think he's already leading the Labour party mate.

ha ha ha - you really can't face up to what a shit show the Tories are without trying to deflect can you?

 

[The perfect fumble]

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Indeed, but she has survived a no confidence vote in the House of Commons.

This is not a constitutional crisis and the Tories will ensure it never becomes one, because if it does, it might well trigger a general election and that's the last thing they want.

A large number of Tory MPs are frightened of the blood and guts Tory membership, using them to oust May is a double edged sword, it might well cut May's throat but it'll also cut theirs.

May is finished, but the manner of her departing very much dictates who succeeds her.

Put simply, everyone agrees May is terrible, but for different reasons, she is still PM because there is no unifying candidate that can beat Boris.

Arseholes like Hunt are jockeying in to position to take up that second spot on the shortlist and Gove is doing his best Wormtongue, but the simple fact is that if Johnson gets on the ballot of two candidates submitted to the membership, he'd romp home with the shire Tories, then we'd have the fat fool as PM. A sizeable number of Tory MPs would walk in those circumstances, the party could very well split.

So, for the time being, May squats in Downing Street like the incompetent shithouse she is, because all roads to booting her out end up with the King of shithouses.

A very sound analysis.

Tories are in a dark place. Boris is hated by the party hierarchy and tory MPs generally, he is also a divisive figure outside the party. But his fanatical support from around 80k tory members makes him a shoe in if he's on the ballot for next leader. What would he do if he got in to power - god knows but highly likely he would pursue a hard disastrous brexit. So he would fail one way or another. Where do they turn next?

Understandably tory MPs are reluctant to jettison May as what comes next does not look rosy.

 

[Blue Hefner]

Theresa Mao PMSL

I prefer Chairman May....

 

[Blue Til Death]

I've always voted Tory, mainly because Labour could not organise a piss up in a brewery and the fact that the Tories are generally good with the our money, which is still the case for both parties, however, the way they have fucked brexit up with rank incompetence and lack of desire to succeed, i will never vote for the cunts again...!

 

[Bigga]

I've always voted Tory, mainly because Labour could not organise a piss up in a brewery and the fact that the Tories are generally good with the our money, which is still the case for both parties, however, the way they have fucked brexit up with rank incompetence and lack of desire to succeed, i will never vote for the cunts again...!

Interesting that running our services and NHS into the ground wasn't quite enough...

 

[Chippy_boy]

Interesting that running our services and NHS into the ground wasn't quite enough...

Or "spending only what we can afford" as it's actually called.

 

[Bigga]

Or "spending only what we can afford" as it's actually called.

Ah!

So, the shortsightedness of not training up British nurses and doctors for the future and paying them as they should be paid instead of grabbing them from abroad before trying to ban Johnny Foreigner from adding to the workforce, plus not building housing, fixing travel prices, climbing utility bills, cutting police and social services, hiking university bills and sorting infrastructure, whilst finding ways of paying minority parties and bribing councils for votes and adding to defence budgets, just in case some pesky Russian/Korean leader might (just might) try it on is all about 'affordability'??

Gotcha.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Ah!

So, the shortsightedness of not training up British nurses and doctors for the future and paying them as they should be paid instead of grabbing them from abroad before trying to ban Johnny Foreigner from adding to the workforce, plus not building housing, fixing travel prices, climbing utility bills, cutting police and social services, hiking university bills and sorting infrastructure, whilst finding ways of paying minority parties and bribing councils for votes and adding to defence budgets, just in case some pesky Russian/Korean leader might (just might) try it on is all about 'affordability'??

Gotcha.

Yep, well summarised.

 

[dave_blue12]

Ah!

So, the shortsightedness of not training up British nurses and doctors for the future and paying them as they should be paid instead of grabbing them from abroad before trying to ban Johnny Foreigner from adding to the workforce, plus not building housing, fixing travel prices, climbing utility bills, cutting police and social services, hiking university bills and sorting infrastructure, whilst finding ways of paying minority parties and bribing councils for votes and adding to defence budgets, just in case some pesky Russian/Korean leader might (just might) try it on is all about 'affordability'??

Gotcha.

Chippy thinks running an economy is like running a corner shop. It's not but I've read enough of his posts to know that arguing with him is pointless.

My view on the Tory Party is that they are in deep trouble.

Their support base is dying, the have been virtually wiped out in the Cities and the young generally hate them. If they deliver Brexit they are probably finished.

 

[Blue Til Death]

Interesting that running our services and NHS into the ground wasn't quite enough...

Don't get me started about who runs what into the ground, not on a Friday anyway... If you want to wax lyrical about labours non achievements, you are talking to the wrong man..

 

[Chippy_boy]

Chippy thinks running an economy is like running a corner shop. It's not but I've read enough of his posts to know that arguing with him is pointless.

My view on the Tory Party is that they are in deep trouble.

Their support base is dying, the have been virtually wiped out in the Cities and the young generally hate them. If they deliver Brexit they are probably finished.

Well I'd take my running a corner shop over Labour's couldn't run a piss up in a brewery.

Apart from that, I tend to agree with you.

 

[Bigga]

Don't get me started about who runs what into the ground, not on a Friday anyway... If you want to wax lyrical about labours non achievements, you are talking to the wrong man..

May has turned the bullish-stiff-upper-lipped Tories the Dirty Red Scum of politics; a laughing stock, believing they are actually still relevant in sticking to old 'trusted', tried and tested wooden boats that have their sailors shovelling water out as fast as it comes in, whilst the New World waves on as they sails on by...

 

[Blue Til Death]

May has turned the bullish-stiff-upper-lipped Tories the Dirty Red Scum of politics; a laughing stock, believing they are actually still relevant in sticking to old 'trusted', tried and tested wooden boats that have their sailors shovelling water out as fast as it comes in, whilst the New World waves on as they sails on by...

Ha ha, yet Labour have Corbyn as a leader, Jesus wept Bigga, you can do better than that, I agree about May and the current Tories but even May can wave bye bye to Corbyns boat bailing numpties and his old world views ...... Anyway bugger off, I told you I wasn't doing this today.....