UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Seedy Ron]

CITY V UEFA

 

[threadkiller]

So we could be ban using emails etc that were stole from us, how can it be legal, surely they should be done for being in receipt of stolen property

Because it's a private body, not a court of law - the rules of evidence don't apply, its as arbitrary as they want it to be!

 

[crazyg]

"We can try to understand
The New York Times' effect on man"

(Stayin' Alive - the Bee Gees)

Yes we certainly can - SHIT STIRRING BASTARDS!

 

[pavelsrnicek]

All I will say is that it gives them a choice. If they now go ahead and propose a ban (especially of one year) it will show that it was a real leak and that the integrity of the investigation is compromised. That's as serious as it gets for a professionally conducted enquiry and strengthens our potential argument that it was never a properly-conducted independent investigation but a pre-judged witch-hunt. And the answers to the questions I have posed above need to be answered. Who and why.

The NYT has a choice. They can either admit they made it up (which no-one believes they did) and explain why or, alternatively, confirm that they do indeed have a source from within the enquiry (who they will not, and don't have to, name) which has the effect described above.

Believe me, this is a major bollock dropped.

I agree, though this article presents different issues for UEFA and the NYT.

If it’s true, which it probably is, then as you say it undermines the integrity of the investigation and causes reputational damage even prior to a decision on a sanction being levied. We could be in negotiations with players who may be reluctant to join without Champions League or sponsors who may be less inclined to sponsor us without Champions League. The merest whiff of sanction causes us problems. This is a problem for UEFA.

If it’s not true then NYT will be paying be damages for defamation.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

UEFA can't even get this right.

Never known an organisation repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot so many times.

I think they will ban us because they are that stupid. City will take UEFA to CAS and win. Whether City take it further and get damages will be interesting.

UEFA are either ignoring their lawyers or getting bad advice. How much is this personal vendetta worth to UEFA and their cartel? It's probably their last chance to see sense.

I think you're pretty close to the mark.

They'll take a chance on appeasing the movers behind this & hope when CAS chuck it out it'll all go quiet ....which is when we should strike for the heart.

 

[TheBlueDune]

Wow. This needs to be highlighted. Clearly City have them, NYT and UeFA, rattled hence the edit.
The one problem I have with it al is that the reputational damage is being done and even when we are shown to be squeaky clean it will alwya be there to be hinted at by the biaised media.

Keeps Dan Roan in a job at Rag Media Quays.
"No smoke without fire" will be the new Dipperdom chant.

 

[MillisleBlue]

Must still be a lot of trembling bottom lips since 16:55 on Sunday as the appeasement and pandering is now in overdrive.

 

[abu13]

I love this club, that response is spot on and shows we are ready to fight our corner.

 

[Gordyola]

All this mud slinging has strong racist connotation
City's largest shareholder an Arab
NYT controlled by the Sulzberger family since 1896.

 

[Newman Noggs]

I agree, though this article presents different issues for UEFA and the NYT.

If it’s true, which it probably is, then as you say it undermines the integrity of the investigation and causes reputational damage even prior to a decision on a sanction being levied. We could be in negotiations with players who may be reluctant to join without Champions League or sponsors who may be less inclined to sponsor us without Champions League. The merest whiff of sanction causes us problems. This is a problem for UEFA.

If it’s not true then NYT will be paying be damages for defamation.

Exactly. This is a major bollock dropped by someone on the inside who, in their glee, couldn't even wait a couple of weeks to smear us. Someone very bitter about losing the league on Sunday and with historic links to the NYT I would suggest.

Finally, this is the sort of leverage we needed to begin our counter-attack.

 

[Henkeman]

All this mud slinging has strong racist connotation
City's largest shareholder an Arab
NYT controlled by the Sulzberger family since 1896.

Ugh. Claiming racism through making an anti-Semitic allegation hardly helps.

 

[moh]

Exactly. This is a major bollock dropped by someone on the inside who, in their glee, couldn't even wait a couple of weeks to smear us. Someone very bitter about losing the league on Sunday and with historic links to the NYT I would suggest.

Finally, this is the sort of leverage we needed to begin our counter-attack.

Don't think it's an accident that we have gone all in when a non UK based paper decided to report it either

Make an example, put a marker down. Let the others think next time

 

[BosnianBlue]

Leaked Khaldoon's image from this morning :

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Excellent response in preparation for a court case that. If we do need to challenge any punishment, then we can sure question the integrity of the organisation handing out the punishment. It hints at connections between interested parties.

That statement probably works out at about £1000 per letter!!

 

[jollylescott]

What really stinks out the room in this NYT article is the impeccable timing.

The moment City achieved one of the greatest triumphs in modern football, the article is published. The innuendo is that City are cheats, and that any success that has occurred is purely because they have rorted the system.

Frankly I don’t blame City for reacting with anger. It’s so bleeding obvious that this journo is doing the bidding of forces intent on tearing City down.

The article is designed to manipulate public opinion, and of course it’s been jumped on with glee by the British media.

I’m sure Soriano and Co will be livid, and honestly I don’t blame them.

 

[McfcJ]

 

[DontLookBackInAnger]

From day one of this current story I have thought this was more an attack against the CFG than one aimed at the club directly and the fact that the most recent story broke via the NYT based in a city with a team in the group would indicate that might well be the case.

 

[93.20]

Think we should plant a UCO inside UEFA. That'll sort it. Bent as anything that lot.

The next CL home game should feature booos on an epic scale!

 

[SebastianBlue]

UAE doesn’t like Qatar. Not vice versa. It’s the UAE that’s imposing an illegal ground, air and sea blockade on Qatar. Flying from Qatar to South Africa now takes an hour and a half longer.

And it’s entirely on the fault of the UAE for being KSA’s bitch on this.

That’s not what I have been told (like you, when it comes to the general perception of the people, I don’t trust what is written, most of which also paints a current mutual dislike). I know a few Qataris (all living abroad, mind) that have told me otherwise; it has quite literally come up when talking about football and City (once leading to a bit of a tense conversation). It is fair to say that Qatar was not really hostile toward the UAE before 2017, but saying Qatar has no issue with the UAE now, after the blockade, economic shadow sanctions, and various other attempted influence, is strange.

I think you live in Qatar, though, so I know you are closer to the ground there. Is it possible that ex-pats are more aggressive in their stances than those at home?

Genuinely curious to hear your thoughts.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Ugh. Claiming racism through making an anti-Semitic allegation hardly helps.

Perhaps not racism. There seems to be some sort of proxy war going on at the top of football and you can't rule out a middle east political dimension. It's very rife in US politics at the moment.