Matthijs de Ligt

Eds said:
What I find odd in most transfers these days is that the player's wishes are hardly ever taken in account. Player says I want Barca, club happy with fee but because the agent is a greedy fucker the player could end up at a club he doesn't want but agent has more money. Look at Sanchez, did he really want the rags?
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I see your point but Sanchez longed to play for united since he was a baby.
 
No way we go anywhere near this. Greedy agent and player looks like he’s after big pay day as well. Much prefer a player that is more interested in the footballing side. If he was interested n the football side of things more he would be at Barca now.
 
Eds said:
What I find odd in most transfers these days is that the player's wishes are hardly ever taken in account. Player says I want Barca, club happy with fee but because the agent is a greedy fucker the player could end up at a club he doesn't want but agent has more money. Look at Sanchez, did he really want the rags?
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It's odd but it depends on the player in the end anyway - choose payday or choose project, which doesn't necessarily preclude you from getting great wages ultimately anyway. Truth is there are plenty of examples for any player to look at it with caution when considering these options, Alexis is not the first nor the last - depends on the player's ambitions

FWIW, I don't get the impression De Ligt is cut from a similar cloth to opt for pay over project even if he enlisted the services of a shark like Raiola - players who have been his clients love him because he gets them the best contracts and pizza boy wants to keep delivering that else risk being made irrelevant. Could also play into that a player De Ligt is also fully aware that a central defender rarely gets the highest wages and even less likely at 19/20 which of course begs the question of why enlist Raiola anyway

As it stands, if rumours are to believed then there are clearly clubs willing to meet those wage demands of Raiola - then it's a question of whether it's meant simply as leverage for his preferred destination or legitimately the player will accept pay over project. I believe it is the former but I am only speculating

Important to remember, we are only in May although Koeman has called up the NT for 5 day training camp starting today ahead of the League of Nations in Portugual for the Semifinals on June 6. It was previously rumoured the player wanted his situation resolved prior to start of camp to avoid distractions - so if nothing is closed today then I don't envision much further progress in talks before June 6 or 9 (Finals)
 
Sam Lee: "After Vincent Kompany's shock departure, City are in the market for a new centre-back. They had been talking to Ajax's Matthijs De Ligt around this time last year, with a view to a move this summer, but Goal understands the Blues have decided not to rival Barcelona, and other clubs, for his signature after all. Part of the reasoning is that they do not want to deal with his agent, Mino Raiola."
 
FCBarca said:
It's odd but it depends on the player in the end anyway - choose payday or choose project, which doesn't necessarily preclude you from getting great wages ultimately anyway. Truth is there are plenty of examples for any player to look at it with caution when considering these options, Alexis is not the first nor the last - depends on the player's ambitions

FWIW, I don't get the impression De Ligt is cut from a similar cloth to opt for pay over project even if he enlisted the services of a shark like Raiola - players who have been his clients love him because he gets them the best contracts and pizza boy wants to keep delivering that else risk being made irrelevant. Could also play into that a player De Ligt is also fully aware that a central defender rarely gets the highest wages and even less likely at 19/20 which of course begs the question of why enlist Raiola anyway

As it stands, if rumours are to believed then there are clearly clubs willing to meet those wage demands of Raiola - then it's a question of whether it's meant simply as leverage for his preferred destination or legitimately the player will accept pay over project. I believe it is the former but I am only speculating

Important to remember, we are only in May although Koeman has called up the NT for 5 day training camp starting today ahead of the League of Nations in Portugual for the Semifinals on June 6. It was previously rumoured the player wanted his situation resolved prior to start of camp to avoid distractions - so if nothing is closed today then I don't envision much further progress in talks before June 6 or 9 (Finals)
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Its his agent that bothers me, if he came to City he'd have his next move lined up as soon as the ink was dry.
 
Andrew___K said:
Sam Lee: "After Vincent Kompany's shock departure, City are in the market for a new centre-back. They had been talking to Ajax's Matthijs De Ligt around this time last year, with a view to a move this summer, but Goal understands the Blues have decided not to rival Barcelona, and other clubs, for his signature after all. Part of the reasoning is that they do not want to deal with his agent, Mino Raiola."
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Yep, a fucking big fat snake.
 
flb said:
Its his agent that bothers me, if he came to City he'd have his next move lined up as soon as the ink was dry.
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Maybe. No question that he has gained a reputation for getting what he, and in turn his clients, want. Currently his biggest clients are Pogba & Verratti. Verratti will never leave PSG unless the Qataris want to move him, making Raiola irrelevant. Pogba will be an ongoing issue wherever he goes, irrespective of Raiola IMO
 
TonyM said:
I see your point but Sanchez longed to play for united since he was a baby.
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Pity for United it was the ‘old Joanna’ he wanted to play and not football. That piano concerto was his best moment in a Rag shirt.
 
looks like he is signing for the rags! fucking twats! we might hate mino but why lose out on a talent like de ligt for that?
 
richards30 said:
looks like he is signing for the rags! fucking twats! we might hate mino but why lose out on a talent like de ligt for that?
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250k weekly wages for 19/20 y.o. defender is a slippery slope to consider. Sounds more like leverage to get better deals elsewhere but fair play to the player if he chooses this option - still believe Barcelona remains the priority
 
richards30 said:
looks like he is signing for the rags! fucking twats! we might hate mino but why lose out on a talent like de ligt for that?
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I wouldn't worry too much the endervise ratio of brilliant in holland to wank in the prem is pretty even with many players turning out to be not as good as they looked in a tougher league.

Add to that he will be playing for a 3rd division manager with players at scottish prem levels, it will be a mistake from him and will stunt his progression, if he signs then I couldn't give a fuck.

Anyway it is just a bargaining chip to get barca to pony up what that slimey **** agent wants
 
richards30 said:
looks like he is signing for the rags! fucking twats! we might hate mino but why lose out on a talent like de ligt for that?
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We aren't paying the wages he wants or his agent wants., and if he chooses the rags for wages over Barca or us not sure we want him. If he has the right attitude he’ll tell his agent where he wants to play not where he’ll get the money.
 
blueparrot said:
We aren't paying the wages he wants or his agent wants., and if he chooses the rags for wages over Barca or us not sure we want him. If he has the right attitude he’ll tell his agent where he wants to play not where he’ll get the money.
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This exactly
 
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