No, it wasn't an emergency, she went to America first and got told to get back on the plane, basically.It was an emergency. Surely you wouldn’t want her and her children to be untreated?
The shortfall is about £150mil in total, peanuts on the scale of things
No, it wasn't an emergency, she went to America first and got told to get back on the plane, basically.
There are many cases of people arriving at Heathrow and going straight to hospital, I'm not going to put more instances
up as I can't be arsed, but the facts are, this sort of abuse has been going on, which is just one area where serious reform
of the NHS is necessary.
Well it's the madness of a system though that you can only buy a small number of paracetamol which are cheap because the state thinks that by limiting them will reduce suicides.£70M alone in 2016 with just short of 21,500,000 prescriptions given for paracetamol at £3.23 per item despite you being able to buy it yourself at the supermarket for literally pennies.
Im sure there are many like for like instances and the total amounts are eye watering.
Its out and out abuse of a stretched system that needs to be immediately stopped.
Its probably pertinent to point out that being a member of the EU didnt stop it happening either given the way some think leaving will cause the end of days.
£70M alone in 2016 with just short of 21,500,000 prescriptions given for paracetamol at £3.23 per item despite you being able to buy it yourself at the supermarket for literally pennies.
Im sure there are many like for like instances and the total amounts are eye watering.
Its out and out abuse of a stretched system that needs to be immediately stopped.
Its probably pertinent to point out that being a member of the EU didnt stop it happening either given the way some think leaving will cause the end of days.
No, it wasn't an emergency, she went to America first and got told to get back on the plane, basically.
There are many cases of people arriving at Heathrow and going straight to hospital, I'm not going to put more instances
up as I can't be arsed, but the facts are, this sort of abuse has been going on, which is just one area where serious reform
of the NHS is necessary.
Ensured that measures are taken prior to this blatant premeditated theft of a country's resources.Just a quick question. What would you have done?
So your answer is to give access to anyone from around the world, no insurance necessary, like it is everywhereSo you would have her and her kids left untreated, fair enough.
Either way the shortfall is around 150mil. I’d put that down as a price of being a civilised country and not turning away poorly children. Also, what is the actual cost of chasing this money, is it worth the effort?
How about we all pay an extra fiver a month through NI?
But this is how it starts - we shouldn’t be paying for foreigners. Then unemployed ‘because they haven’t paid into the system’. Then those that have ‘self inflicted’ issues. Teenage mothers perhaps or fat people or addicts or those with sporting injuries
If they got their way only the healthy and wealthy would be entitled to medical care
So your answer is to give access to anyone from around the world, no insurance necessary, like it is everywhere
on earth, just head off to Blighty, walk into a hospital, and receive treatment for whatever the ailment is.
That'd be a great vote winner.
Have you heard yourself? You put the link up which said the following:No, it wasn't an emergency, she went to America first and got told to get back on the plane, basically.
There are many cases of people arriving at Heathrow and going straight to hospital, I'm not going to put more instances
up as I can't be arsed, but the facts are, this sort of abuse has been going on, which is just one area where serious reform
of the NHS is necessary.
Don't think Mathew Parris likes Johnson.
Why did she have a British visitors visa?Have you heard yourself? You put the link up which said the following:
The woman, was due to give birth in the US, where she has family, but had been turned away for not having the right hospital paperwork.
She was taken ill on her flight home to Nigeria and ended up in St Mary's A&E, which covers Heathrow after her flight stopped over at the airport.
Priscilla was three months away from her due date. How is that ‘planned’ and not an emergency?
I was quoting the bbc story you’d put up, not the Mail one. (I’d not read it as I assumed they were the same and the bbc one was at the top).Why did she have a British visitors visa?
I think we're looking at the wrong case here.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...st-came-UK-birth-says-no-one-s-asked-pay.html
So your answer is to give access to anyone from around the world, no insurance necessary, like it is everywhere
on earth, just head off to Blighty, walk into a hospital, and receive treatment for whatever the ailment is.
That'd be a great vote winner.
What’s wrong with the system now? Bills are being issued to those without insurance and the majority of the money is being paid, less the 150mil shortfall which on the scale of things is peanuts
Like I said, stick a fiver on NI and ring fence it. The idea that the odd Nigerian women and people not returning crutches on time are a real money saver is for the birds as far as I’m concerned
People are living longer with more complex conditions. The technology and expertise needs paying for and the money has to come from somewhere. Of course saving can be in some areas but after 10 years of cuts, I’d be surprised if there is much left to cut - it needs paying for and we probably need to put our hand in our pockets
Completely agree we need to pay more but to then ask for that but tell people not to worry about the odd £150M as if its peanuts or the sheer wastage that goes is not going to wash im afraid.
The point being made is that the system is being abused, and has been by Nigerians, it just so happens there are twoI was quoting the bbc story you’d put up, not the Mail one. (I’d not read it as I assumed they were the same and the bbc one was at the top).
What’s the alternative? Not treat people? Get on a plane with a team of bailiffs? Whilst I accept there probably is waste, for 10 years we’ve been cutting is there something they have missed which is an obvious money saver? The prescription thing looks like a winner but surely there is more to it?
No there is no more to it than saying to anyone who needs paracetamol to go buy it themselves for 19p from the local shop rather than have it prescribed with the ridiculous costs that then incurs on the NHS. The same could be said for many more drugs offered for everyday ailments that people think is worthy of a trip to the doctors when they could self help and go to the pharmacy.
Why are you even at the doctors for a paracetamol prescription in the first place, over 21.5 million of them in 2016 alone?
Like it or not, the NHS has to be run like a business with every penny accounted for as right now, individual trusts with no common buying policies are literally wasting the huge amounts they are given far too often and then crying for even more and us as citizens have to wake up and realise that its the last port of call for when we are seriously ill or injured and not just a one stop shop we can abuse when we dont feel 100% some days.
£216M in missed appointment costs alone because folk are quick enough to ring the GP for an appointment yet cant be arsed to cancel, costing us all and those that really needed to see the doctor.
You should be fined, that cost recovered its that simple.