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Bernardo still played on the right this season because he's a good winger. He played CM in games due to KDB being injured.
I know your right. However I think his game time on the right was also attributable to the dip in Mahrez and Sanes form during the season. Pep seemed to trust him and sterling more in the significant games.

I think it's been clear for some time though where he will be playing more though further nside and eventually taking over from D Silva.
To be honest though I think you could play him anywhere in that front 6.
 
U do realise Fernandinho was a box to box midfielder , don't you ? Before he came to city. ...so u think Kante cant adapt slightly to what pep would want ? Rice is another one. We are not going to get either one anyway as far we know so far.

So u can stop bothering what other people watch all the time .this is a forum can post what they want as long as it doesnt break the rules !
Pick your toys up pal.

Kante hasn’t got the passing ability or awareness in possession to play our system, absolutely not a fucking hope in hells chance. He’s proven that this season playing in a slightly advanced role at Chelsea because he’s been dog shit, he can run forever but on the ball he’s no better than Fernando (never mind Fernandinho). Rice is even worse, a slightly quicker, more aggressive Javi Garcia and that’s it.

That ability can’t be taught (e.g. Kyle Walker). Other parts of the game can be but not enough for it to be fluid enough for us, it requires natural ability as Pep says “without good players it’s impossible”.
 
I know your right. However I think his game time on the right was also attributable to the dip in Mahrez and Sanes form during the season. Pep seemed to trust him and sterling more in the significant games.

I think it's been clear for some time though where he will be playing more though further nside and eventually taking over from D Silva.
To be honest though I think you could play him anywhere in that front 6.

Bernardo's best qualities are that of dribbling and shooting. He can beat 2 men put in a cross or go inside and shoot. Thus making him the best right winger (yes better than Mahrez). As a CM he's not as good with his passing as David. David (and Gundo) can 1 touch pass better to beat a press and can control the game. Yes Bernardo can play there, but he's most dangerous and can create more chances out right.

Anyway this is a Rodri thread and I know people sometimes favor more defensive attributes, but Pep, before Dinho, always favored players who's ability on the ball outweighed their defence. Busquetes, Xabi Alonso and he even wanted Jorghino. I know this is the PL and Dinho has done great at distributing the ball and that makes him unique, but though possessing the ball more and not losing it means the opposition can't attack you as much. If you have a defensive person like Kante who would give away the ball more, you give away more chances. When it comes to defending especially counter attacks it's a team effort. The CB's are pushed high and when balls are lost in dangerous positions everyone including the wingers track back. It's more positional play. Rodri is tidy on the ball, he's decent at defending, but isn't really blessed with pace.
 
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Bernardo's best qualities are that of dribbling and shooting. He can beat 2 men put in a cross or go inside and shoot. Thus making him the best right winger (yes better than Mahrez). As a CM he's not as good with his passing as David. David (and Gundo) can 1 touch pass better to beat a press and can control the game. Yes Bernardo can play there, but he's most dangerous and can create more chances out right.

Anyway this is a Rodri thread and I know people sometimes more defensive attributes, but Pep, before Dinho, always favored players who's ability on the ball outweighed their defence. Busquetes, Xabi Alonso and he even wanted Jorghino. I know this is the PL and Dinho has done great at distributing the ball and that makes him unique, but though possessing the ball more and not losing it means the opposition can't attack you as much. If you have a defensive person like Kante who would give away the ball more, you give away more chances. When it comes to defending especially counter attacks it's a team effort. The CB's are pushed high and when balls are lost in dangerous positions everyone including the wingers track back. It's more positional play. Rodri is tidy on the ball, he's decent at defending, but isn't really blessed with pace.
Nice one. Really good read that. I can't fault anything there. I reckon as well as the ability to retain and pass well the pull towards Rodri must be around his physicality and awareness to put out fires when needed.

I remember when Fabinho came on against us at home we really struggled with his physicality and indeed the physicality of the Liverpool team. We were knackered during the last 20 or 30, but could not get anywhere near him and so retreated and hung on.



I think there's been a fair few games like that, the last 20 against Leicester at home being the most recent.
I think that's the kind of aspect to are game we need when Ferns out and what rodri may bring along with his ability on the ball.

I think thats why the Club seem to be targeting an aggressive CB who can play. I am a disciple of the posession game can't get enough of it but more and more it does seem that we need players who can provide an hybrid of the two, posession and physicality, which Komps to a large extent was.

Puyol for me would have been perfect for City at this time.
 
Bernardo's best qualities are that of dribbling and shooting. He can beat 2 men put in a cross or go inside and shoot. Thus making him the best right winger (yes better than Mahrez). As a CM he's not as good with his passing as David. David (and Gundo) can 1 touch pass better to beat a press and can control the game. Yes Bernardo can play there, but he's most dangerous and can create more chances out right.
You need different qualities to break down different teams, Bernardo’s dribbling ability is just as useful in central areas as it is wide right. We play against so many teams who pack the midfield and try to intercept passes rather than close players down, in those situations you need someone with a slightly different skill set (e.g. dribbling) to draw someone out to create space for a De Bruyne, Aguero etc. As good as Merlin and Gundogan are at passing they’re not capable of beating a man 1 vs 1 as frequently as Bernardo and that’s why sometimes Bernardo is the best option in central midfield.

Equally Merlin and Gundogan can’t press with the same intensity and aggression as Bernardo and that can be key to unlocking a defence, as Liverpool prove as frequently as we do.
 
Bernardo's best qualities are that of dribbling and shooting. He can beat 2 men put in a cross or go inside and shoot. Thus making him the best right winger (yes better than Mahrez). As a CM he's not as good with his passing as David. David (and Gundo) can 1 touch pass better to beat a press and can control the game. Yes Bernardo can play there, but he's most dangerous and can create more chances out right.

Anyway this is a Rodri thread and I know people sometimes favor more defensive attributes, but Pep, before Dinho, always favored players who's ability on the ball outweighed their defence. Busquetes, Xabi Alonso and he even wanted Jorghino. I know this is the PL and Dinho has done great at distributing the ball and that makes him unique, but though possessing the ball more and not losing it means the opposition can't attack you as much. If you have a defensive person like Kante who would give away the ball more, you give away more chances. When it comes to defending especially counter attacks it's a team effort. The CB's are pushed high and when balls are lost in dangerous positions everyone including the wingers track back. It's more positional play. Rodri is tidy on the ball, he's decent at defending, but isn't really blessed with pace.

Your also right about BSilva, but his ability to suck midfielders and defenders out of position with his skill and movement creating overloads in the middle of the park or last third would reak havoc and create so many opportunities for are midfielders, wingers and forwards.
 
You need different qualities to break down different teams, Bernardo’s dribbling ability is just as useful in central areas as it is wide right. We play against so many teams who pack the midfield and try to intercept passes rather than close players down, in those situations you need someone with a slightly different skill set (e.g. dribbling) to draw someone out to create space for a De Bruyne, Aguero etc. As good as Merlin and Gundogan are at passing they’re not capable of beating a man 1 vs 1 as frequently as Bernardo and that’s why sometimes Bernardo is the best option in central midfield.

Equally Merlin and Gundogan can’t press with the same intensity and aggression as Bernardo and that can be key to unlocking a defence, as Liverpool prove as frequently as we do.

Yet there were many games where Pep could have played Bernie in the middle, but chose to play him out right. Spurs in the CL and in the PL where he chose Foden instead. Against the rags where he shot past Shaw to score and Leicester again where Foden played in the middle and he played out right as well.
 
Yet there were many games where Pep could have played Bernie in the middle, but chose to play him out right. Spurs in the CL and in the PL where he chose Foden instead. Against the rags where he shot past Shaw to score and Leicester again where Foden played in the middle and he played out right as well.
Of course, it’s wherever his skill set is best suited on the day. If that’s out wide right some days great, if that’s in the middle other days again great. There is no right or wrong answer, you pick the team which best exposes the oppositions weaknesses.
 
He doesn’t want to leave Spain imo. Young guy who’s at his hometown club? And let’s be honest they are hardly shite? Incase he stays, who’s next on the list? Ndombele?
 
I'm fast approaching the point where I'm beginning not to care of Rodri signs are not. Got that tingly feeling of Jorghinio about it. I think he would be perfect for City in midfield and probably as an axillary cb. Not sure when pre season starts but either way it would be good to get some clarity about whether he's in or not. This Griezman type posturing about which multi million pound or euro contract I should choose is a bit nauseating.

Love him as a player but getting the same feeling about Sane too,if you're in great, if not, cheers you've been great and the best of luck.

With a potential transfer ban looking this really is not the time for not being indecisive in the window. However, I do acknowledge that any criticism of City may be unfair on City as these deals are probably largely out of their hands until they get the green light.
 
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