Kalidou Koulibaly

Koulibaly is well settled and loves playing for Napoli, hence regardless of interest and obscene price a move was never on the cards those years, it still remains the case.
 
Dax777 said:
About what part exactly? The Price, the Pool player or the disrespect of the Napoli legend?
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Gomez is no shape or form at the level of Koulibaly and I can say this comfortably having watched both enough to have an opinion. I cannot imagine any area where Gomez is ahead of Koulibaly but I'd be glad if you can go into specifics i.e. areas where or why you think Gomez is just as good as or better than Koulibaly.
 
ojeme said:
Gomez is no shape or form at the level of Koulibaly and I can say this comfortably having watched both enough to have an opinion. I cannot imagine any area where Gomez is ahead of Koulibaly but I'd be glad if you can go into specifics i.e. areas where or why you think Gomez is just as good as or better than Koulibaly.
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My reason for rather having Gomez is multifaceted. But I'll start with talent:
I agree Koulibally is presently. An overall better player. But he is 6 years ahead of Gomez so I'm not surprised.

Here are Gomez's qualities that I prefer: He is faster than Koulibally (he is one of the fastest CB I've seen anywhere). His danger recognition, reaction, and recovery skills are better. His speed and quickness helps here, but so does his intelligence.. He is a better on the ball player (not as a passer, but bringing it out). He is a cleaner defender as he commits fewer fouls and gives up few cheap Freekicks.

Koulibally is bigger, Stronger, better in the air and a better short area passer. And obviously he has more experience.

Yes, Koulibally is currently better. This I believe is more a function of experience and exposure. I believe barring injury Gomez would have risen as one of the best defenders in the league this past season. And I'd expect him to go on and do that in the seasons to come.

Thus, because he is English, Younger, Cheaper, technically sound, and athletically superior, I'd rather have him at a cheaper price for 10 years over Koulibally at a hight price for 4..
 
Dax777 said:
My reason for rather having Gomez is multifaceted. But I'll start with talent:
I agree Koulibally is presently. An overall better player. But he is 6 years ahead of Gomez so I'm not surprised.

Here are Gomez's qualities that I prefer: He is faster than Koulibally (he is one of the fastest CB I've seen anywhere). His danger recognition, reaction, and recovery skills are better. His speed and quickness helps here, but so does his intelligence.. He is a better on the ball player (not as a passer, but bringing it out). He is a cleaner defender as he commits fewer fouls and gives up few cheap Freekicks.

Koulibally is bigger, Stronger, better in the air and a better short area passer. And obviously he has more experience.

Yes, Koulibally is currently better. This I believe is more a function of experience and exposure. I believe barring injury Gomez would have risen as one of the best defenders in the league this past season. And I'd expect him to go on and do that in the seasons to come.

Thus, because he is English, Younger, Cheaper, technically sound, and athletically superior, I'd rather have him at a cheaper price for 10 years over Koulibally at a hight price for 4..
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Liverpool would never sell Gomez so it's out the question anyway

I could put my money on it Gomez will never be as good and as developed as Koulibaly.

Koulibaly is Van Dijk-esque. It's a real shame he hasn't played for an elite club and gone on to win major honours. He deserves it.
 
citizens_1976 said:
Liverpool would never sell Gomez so it's out the question anyway

I could put my money on it Gomez will never be as good and as developed as Koulibaly.

Koulibaly is Van Dijk-esque. It's a real shame he hasn't played for an elite club and gone on to win major honours. He deserves it.
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Not denying Koulibally is special, im simply saying I think Gomez will be too. And I like the intangibles. Even if I agreed with your premise that Gomez will never be as good as Koulibally

from a logical standpoint, I'll take 85% of Koulibally for 10 years with no addition to our foreign quota, over 100% of Koulibally for 4 years with 1 less foreign spot.

But I agree with your beliif that Pool would never sell Gomez.
 
Dax777 said:
My reason for rather having Gomez is multifaceted. But I'll start with talent:
I agree Koulibally is presently. An overall better player. But he is 6 years ahead of Gomez so I'm not surprised.

Here are Gomez's qualities that I prefer: He is faster than Koulibally (he is one of the fastest CB I've seen anywhere). His danger recognition, reaction, and recovery skills are better. His speed and quickness helps here, but so does his intelligence.. He is a better on the ball player (not as a passer, but bringing it out). He is a cleaner defender as he commits fewer fouls and gives up few cheap Freekicks.

Koulibally is bigger, Stronger, better in the air and a better short area passer. And obviously he has more experience.

Yes, Koulibally is currently better. This I believe is more a function of experience and exposure. I believe barring injury Gomez would have risen as one of the best defenders in the league this past season. And I'd expect him to go on and do that in the seasons to come.

Thus, because he is English, Younger, Cheaper, technically sound, and athletically superior, I'd rather have him at a cheaper price for 10 years over Koulibally at a hight price for 4..
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Athletically superior? He’s injured nearly as much as Mendy. Since signing for dippers he’s had two long term injuries including a cruciate. He’s not really played that much for them because of his injuries.
 
bondsman said:
Athletically superior? He’s injured nearly as much as Mendy. Since signing for dippers he’s had two long term injuries including a cruciate. He’s not really played that much for them because of his injuries.
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I've heared a Liverpool fan say something similar. They love him but bemoan his injuries. Seen him play a bit and he does have nearly everything. Moving into midfield with the ball when I've seen him never looked as though it was something that comes natural to him. He can do it but it doesn't look like his preferred game. He's very solid but while competent on the ball, I'm not sure his passing would be good enough for City.
 
Salford_Blue said:
I was very impressed with Koulibaly when City played them. Read the game well, brought the ball out and his passing was exemplary.

But similarly with Van Dijk, why at the age of 28, did/have no "major" teams come in for them until now?

Koulibaly has been at Napoli for 5 years and no one has had a dabble?

The lad has been playing well for a few years, so why no bites from Real or Barca or City or PSG, etc?

Just seems odd.
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They kept saying the same about Silva, Yaya, Kompany and Aguero after they arrived at the Etihad.

Perhaps Koulibaly just purely believed in Sarri Ball & the Napoli project & saw promise in it. After all, Napoli (like City in England) have upset the natural order in Italy somewhat.

Perhaps with Napoli placing such a high price on his head, & being unwilling to sell for anything near a reasonable price, has made him realise his worth to the team, so he's felt no need to move on to pastures new.

It seems Napoli don't want to sell, & Koulibaly doesn't want to leave, so unless a huge offer is recieved that Napoli can't turn down, they player stays right where he is. If we want him badly enough, we'll have to break the world record paid for a defender to get him.

Does Maguire represent a better deal for us, especially as he's English?
 
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This one isn't going to happen due to the ludicrous demands from De Laurentis, but he's an absolutely fabulous player. No doubt about that.
 
Koulibaly would go straight into the 11, and would be a massive signing. No way would Napoli turn down even a £80-90M bid - and if its true we want Maguire even at £70M its an absolute no brainer.
If Maguire was spanish and playing for valencia, we'd be talking £25-30M.

Even at 28, we'd still get 4 absolutely top years from him.
 
dillbi95 said:
Koulibaly would go straight into the 11, and would be a massive signing. No way would Napoli turn down even a £80-90M bid - and if its true we want Maguire even at £70M its an absolute no brainer.
If Maguire was spanish and playing for valencia, we'd be talking £25-30M.

Even at 28, we'd still get 4 absolutely top years from him.
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You don't know Napoli, do you ?
 
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