UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[VOOMER]

Oh, no, I agree with that side of it. I wasn't clear there at all, apologies. I don't think it was designed to stop City specifically, but I believe it was designed to make sure that success stories like ours couldn't be achieved en masse. They were happy to allow City to join the big boys club so long as they constantly had the opportunity to undermine us and treat us like shit, but if too many clubs got wind that you could disrupt the cabal with some investment, then there'd be trouble, and so FFP was set up. As Hopper said in A Bug's Life: "You let one ant stand up to us, then they all might stand up. Those puny little ants outnumber us a hundred to one. And if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life."

Good to see that you agree that it was put in place stop us.

 

[meltonblue]

I have a slightly different view of ffp to most in that I don’t mind the intent behind it, I just despise the application. I’d advocate anything that increases competition and protection of clubs (the opposite of what the current version does really), which to me is a couple of things. Include restriction of debt, reintroduce shared allocation of match day revenues and widen distribution of tv and price winning revenue. If they did all of that, I wouldn’t have an issue with including a limit on the p&l with the caveat that infrastructure spending remains exempt.

 

[Parisian]

Sorry but that wasn't shady at all.



Outright fraud was what it was.

Yeah you are right.

 

[Parisian]

I am sure i read that Milan had failed FFP 5 years out of 6 so this G14 team has got away with it very very leniently,no transfer bans no fine and all previous transgressions have been wiped

They could do it because they changed owners so many times in few yers : Berlusconi to Yonghong Li to Elliot.
They tried to use the rules allowing new owners to invest massively every time.

 

[journolud]

I have a slightly different view of ffp to most in that I don’t mind the intent behind it, I just despise the application. I’d advocate anything that increases competition and protection of clubs (the opposite of what the current version does really), which to me is a couple of things. Include restriction of debt, reintroduce shared allocation of match day revenues and widen distribution of tv and price winning revenue. If they did all of that, I wouldn’t have an issue with including a limit on the p&l with the caveat that infrastructure spending remains exempt.

The application of it is a clear reflection of the intent, as has been very eloquently described on here on several occasions, to protect the established clubs and thwart ambition and competition.

 

[meltonblue]

Yes I meant the publicised intent rather than the real one :)

 

[7evens]

Shady refers to something done in the dark/shade to avoid any glare and insinuates done illegally.
Backhanders and such are examples of shady deals. So you're using it incorrectly to somehow
have a go at the clubs dealings. Why ? only you know.

Shady can also be used to describe something that is "of doubtful honesty or legality". Definitions of words change within parameters all the time.

 

[7evens]

How the fuck do you work our we saved ourselves a ton of money?

Instead of spending however much on a central midfielder that summer we just loaned Lampard instead, waited until the FFP sanctions were out of the way, then lumped on Sterling and De Bruyne.

 

[SWP's back]

Instead of spending however much on a central midfielder that summer we just loaned Lampard instead, waited until the FFP sanctions were out of the way, then lumped on Sterling and De Bruyne.

But how does that save us money?

We could have picked up Lampard as a free agent. We paid his wages anyway.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Shady can also be used to describe something that is "of doubtful honesty or legality". Definitions of words change within parameters all the time.

Exactly. How can our deals be shady, if they are all out and in the open and the authorities who run the game, say they're OK.