A No Deal would in all probability precipitate a national economic crisis which would indeed be welcomed then worsened through strikes and riots organised by Labour Party Marxists as the precursor to their imagined collapse of the capitalist order. After a few years of this our economy, public services and country will be in ruins.
Hoey comes over as a right weirdo.
I've made it clear many times in the earlier deleted Brexit thread that remaining a member of the EU is clearly preferable to a No Deal or leaving on the terms of the Irish protocol appended to the current Withdrawal Treaty. Our departure should be when Brussells decide we have fattened ourselves at their trough enough and the time has come for us to be included in their pate. Brexit then needs to be via a different route than Article 50.WOW!
So you don't want a no deal then?
Things are moving quickly....
Brexit: Labour to back Remain as it calls for a new EU referendum
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48919695
Labour is promising to campaign to Remain in a new EU referendum against "no deal or a damaging Tory Brexit".
The shift in stance was signalled by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, as he challenged the next prime minister "to put their deal to the people".
That means he's demanding a referendum on whatever Johnson cobbles together, Corbyn is now actively campaigning for a referendum, that's a big shift.
The majority doesn't lie with out anymore, it lies with out of this shit show. If Corbyn can wrestle remain away from the likes of Watson, the fucking Guardian and the whorish Lib Dems, there's a stonking majority to be tapped.
I thought policy could only be decided at conference after a vote? ;-)
Labour needs to be accommodating
There's a difference between accommodating and promiscuous.
So that's the Libs and Labour now backing remain, after remain lost the referendum.
That's an awful lot of voters given two fingers, but hey-ho.
Labour staying on the fence has resulted in them being 4th in the polls, and a leader with a minus 58%To be clear the Labour position is still to leave the EU. All they have done today is confirm that they will opose a no deal and a tory brexit and if that is the only option they will prefer a 2bd ref and the would support remain.
However!
The primary policy is to leave with a Labour negotiated brexit. So we can still assume that in a snap GE the Lab manifesto will still read like a leave party - they will advocate that if they win the election they would leave the EU. Not even a guarantee that there would be a 2nd vote in the event of a Lab Brexit and even if they did allow that they would back there own deal.
So Labour are in effect still on the fence, they are just clarifying how they are balancing and when they might step down.
As a committed remainer - I'd rather Lab stay on the leave side. All signs point to a Remain Alliance (Libs / greens / others) v's a Leave Alliance (Tory / Farage). I'd rather Lab stay on the leave side as they wont join any alliance. How these parties work together will dictate how this plays out.
Labour staying on the fence has resulted in them being 4th in the polls, and a leader with a minus 58%
approval rating, so fence sitting ain't doing too well. Plus, Labour's position is staying in A customs union and
single market, so remaining, basically.
Anyway, we'll see.
Labour staying on the fence has resulted in them being 4th in the polls, and a leader with a minus 58%
approval rating, so fence sitting ain't doing too well. Plus, Labour's position is staying in A customs union and
single market, so remaining, basically.
Anyway, we'll see.
'Don't let our total contempt for your vote put you off voting for us'So that's the Libs and Labour now backing remain, after remain lost the referendum.
That's an awful lot of voters given two fingers, but hey-ho.
I disagree mate.
labours position, that of Corbyn, his right hand man and plenty in his shadow cabinet is to leave the EU but let others do all the work and hopefully gain power down the line free of brexit and the EU.
He just wont admit to it and everything we see and hear is neither here nor there because he isnt in power and doesnt have to deliver on anything.
So you are suggesting that every political party should support Brexit because 52% of the population voted that way. Are Remainers supposed to have noone to vote for in a GE?'Don't let our total contempt for your vote put you off voting for us'
Catchy tag line.
Corbyn belives in conspiracy theories. He does not trust the EU as he thinks they are all capitalist scum blairites controlled by jews. He wants the tories to carry on ballsing up as long as it takes for a GE where he assumes he will win (wrongly).
He wont get drawn on his reasons as they are bat shit crazy.