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mcfc1632 said:
TBF, I did not mention Tory Party members - I would be very surprised if there are more than a couple.

I said: "I would suggest that the majority of Leave supporters on BM are not established Conservative voters."

So my point stands - I would suggest that the number of Tory voters on here are a small minority and they do not all support Leave - also, I suggest that the number of people that are 'staunch Boris Supporters' = either zero or can be counted on one hand. I have no memory of seeing such staunch Boris posts.

In fact you support the point I was making - that a lot of Leavers on here are casually considered to be Conservative voters and/or Boris supporters - it is simply not true.
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I like him, although I think I could be on my own on here. He’s a much smarter political operator than May, and a far better communicator. I reckon he’ll take Corbyn to the cleaners when they go head to head.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
As aided and abetted by our wholly anachronistic and inequitable political system.
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It's a system from two centuries ago and the role wasn't even officially called Prime Minister until 1905. The monarch chose a minister to represent them and notionally still invites the winner to form a government.

The whole system doesn't work in the era of personality politics like we're electing a president. We could vote in a GE and the PM could resigh the next day, or die, and the result stands for the next five years.

USA at least elects a notional replacement as VP. Not single GE vote was cast for BJ to replace St Teresa.
 
hgblue said:
I like him, although I think I could be on my own on here. He’s a much smarter political operator than May, and a far better communicator. I reckon he’ll take Corbyn to the cleaners when they go head to head.
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I have only one single positive that comes to mind when considering him - that he might just get Brexit done.

I do not think so as I do think that we Leavers will end up shafted - but we are on track to be shafted anyway

If he gets Brexit done - then any other damage will be repairable and will have been worth it

So that is one poster that is positive about Boris. Don't mean to ask inappropriate questions but - Are you a Conservative Party member? Are you a Conservative voter? please only answer if that is not a problem
 
mcfc1632 said:
I have only one single positive that comes to mind when considering him - that he might just get Brexit done.
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Which is the only reason he has emerged and will be leader of the Conservative party and PM.

Like Farage/Brexit party, a result of parliament frustrating and stopping us leaving the EU to date.
 
blueinsa said:
Which is the only reason he has emerged and will be leader of the Conservative party and PM.

Like Farage/Brexit party, a result of parliament frustrating and stopping us leaving the EU to date.
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Seems you fancy turning us in to New Leningrad.

The Politburo would have seen it done.
 
mcfc1632 said:
I have only one single positive that comes to mind when considering him - that he might just get Brexit done.

I do not think so as I do think that we Leavers will end up shafted - but we are on track to be shafted anyway

If he gets Brexit done - then any other damage will be repairable and will have been worth it

So that is one poster that is positive about Boris. Don't mean to ask inappropriate questions but - Are you a Conservative Party member? Are you a Conservative voter? please only answer if that is not a problem
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In my opinion the chances of delivering Brexit with this Parliament are slim, because they will block no deal and the EU know it. However, I do believe Boris has credibility with Leave voters and is an effective campaigner so could deliver a Tory majority in the GE which would follow a further failure to leave the EU in October, then all bets are off. I’m not a Tory voter, in fact the last time I voted in a GE was for Tony Blair (to my eternal regret) and the only other times I’ve voted were for UKIP in 2014 because I wanted a referendum and for the Brexit party just recently because I want to see the result respected. I would however vote Tory in the next GE if Boris Johnson is the leader because that’s the key to delivering Brexit and I think a lot of Leave voters would follow suit, especially Labour voters in heavily Leave areas.
 
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hgblue said:
In my opinion the chances of delivering Brexit with this Parliament are slim, because they will block no deal and the EU know it. However, I do believe Boris has credulity with Leave voters and is an effective campaigner so could deliver a Tory majority in the GE which would follow a further failure to leave the EU in October, then all bets are off. I’m not a Tory voter, in fact the last time I voted in a GE was for Tony Blair (to my eternal regret) and the only other times I’ve voted were for UKIP in 2014 because I wanted a referendum and for the Brexit party just recently because I want to see the result respected. I would however vote Tory in the next GE if Boris Johnson is the leader because that’s the key to delivering Brexit and I think a lot of Leave voters would follow suit, especially Labour voters in heavily Leave areas.
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He has credulity alright.

I think you mean credibility.
 
hgblue said:
In my opinion the chances of delivering Brexit with this Parliament are slim, because they will block no deal and the EU know it. However, I do believe Boris has credulity with Leave voters and is an effective campaigner so could deliver a Tory majority in the GE which would follow a further failure to leave the EU in October, then all bets are off. I’m not a Tory voter, in fact the last time I voted in a GE was for Tony Blair (to my eternal regret) and the only other times I’ve voted were for UKIP in 2014 because I wanted a referendum and for the Brexit party just recently because I want to see the result respected. I would however vote Tory in the next GE if Boris Johnson is the leader because that’s the key to delivering Brexit and I think a lot of Leave voters would follow suit, especially Labour voters in heavily Leave areas.
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Thanks - I think that you amply prove the point I was making - in my reply to BTNT

There is no significant Boris loving dyed in the wool conservative voting cadre on BM - so thy would there be an expectation for such a non-existent cadre to come to the defence of Boris following a clumsy interview?
 
hgblue said:
In my opinion the chances of delivering Brexit with this Parliament are slim, because they will block no deal and the EU know it. However, I do believe Boris has credibility with Leave voters and is an effective campaigner so could deliver a Tory majority in the GE which would follow a further failure to leave the EU in October, then all bets are off. I’m not a Tory voter, in fact the last time I voted in a GE was for Tony Blair (to my eternal regret) and the only other times I’ve voted were for UKIP in 2014 because I wanted a referendum and for the Brexit party just recently because I want to see the result respected. I would however vote Tory in the next GE if Boris Johnson is the leader because that’s the key to delivering Brexit and I think a lot of Leave voters would follow suit, especially Labour voters in heavily Leave areas.
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Nah. Even Boris says if he doesn't get Brexit done the Tories are stuffed. It's his USP with the party - self-preservation. (Of course, be could be lying.)
 
mcfc1632 said:
Thanks - I think that you amply prove the point I was making - in my reply to BTNT

There is no significant Boris loving dyed in the wool conservative voting cadre on BM - so thy would there be an expectation for such a non-existent cadre to come to the defence of Boris following a clumsy interview?
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Has anyone come to his defence?
 
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