Donald Trump

[SWP's back]

You believe English liberals hate England? Why?

Because he’s a clueless fuck with zero idea about England would be my wild stab in the dark.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Oh dear that a video of Trump telling congressmen that these Indians don't look indian enough to me? https://www.indy100.com/article/tru...JX8IN3ZuPGrCwBDbBGzuY9_cB1_WBIykaAk9oEALw_wcB

And these simpletons still believe he's not a racist

I would hazard a guess that a lot of these simpletons are racists themselves.

 

[Dax777]

@realDonaldTrump's latest rant.

"The Democrats in Congress are getting nothing done, not on drug pricing, not on immigration, not on infrastructure, not on nothing! Sooo much opportunity, yet all they want to do is go "fishing." The American people are tired of the never ending Witch Hunt, they want results now!"

Shocking grammar from an English speaking world leader.

Perhaps! But is he lying though? What has Congress done?

It's fine to hate the messenger. But is the message true?

 

[Dax777]

Because he’s a clueless fuck with zero idea about England would be my wild stab in the dark.

Here to add your zero value again I see. Go on, curse it up. It's not like much more is expected of you.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Perhaps! But is he lying though? What has Congress done?

It's fine to hate the messenger. But is the message true?

Aren't there a load of bills on McDonnell's desk being ignored by him? Not sure what the Democrats can do that they haven't done.

It may not technically be a lie, but it is deliberate misrepresentation, which might as well be a lie.

 

[The blue phantom]

I would hazard a guess that a lot of these simpletons are racists themselves.

Theres millions of racist who voted him in.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Perhaps! But is he lying though? What has Congress done?

It's fine to hate the messenger. But is the message true?

All the things he is slating the Dem's for could have conceivably been achieved, or started when the Republicans had majorities in both the House and the Senate.

Edit: And also, I'm sure there are more Americans tired of him and his bullsh*t rather than the legitimate investigations into his affairs.

He's and his criminal cohorts are the only one tired of the 'witch hunt'.

 

[Dax777]

All the things he is slating the Dem's for could have conceivably been achieved, or started when the Republicans had majorities in both the House and the Senate.

Edit: And also, I'm sure there are more Americans tired of him and his bullsh*t rather than the legitimate investigations into his affairs.

He's and his criminal cohorts are the only one tired of the 'witch hunt'.

Divided houses are generally good. Especially when you have moderates on both sides who can check each others excesses. Any one Party having a Majority is almost never the best for the country. Especially when the extremists on either are running the agenda. Governing takes compromise. Unfortunately we are nominating fewer and fewer candidates with the gumption to be that on either side. There will soon come a time in the very near future where anyone who votes for one party would never consider voting for the other.

That is a bad place to be headed. That too many can't see this is bewildering.

 

[Dax777]

Aren't there a load of bills on McDonnell's desk being ignored by him? Not sure what the Democrats can do that they haven't done.

It may not technically be a lie, but it is deliberate misrepresentation, which might as well be a lie.

They can work on and pass Plain bills that is supported by most Americans rather than try wrapping them in some of their social agenda bills. But they won't. I guess its more important to use bills as tactical manuevers for future elections than it is to use them as an attempt to solve problems

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Divided houses are generally good. Especially when you have moderates on both sides who can check each others excesses. Any one Party having a Majority is almost never the best for the country. Especially when the extremists on either are running the agenda. Governing takes compromise. Unfortunately we are nominating fewer and fewer candidates with the gumption to be that on either side. There will soon come a time in the very near future where anyone who votes for one party would never consider voting for the other.

That is a bad place to be headed. That too many can't see this is bewildering.

That still doesn't explain why Republicans didn't deal with those issues when they were in the position to force them through the House.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

They can work on and pass Plain bills that is supported by most Americans rather than try wrapping them in some of their social agenda bills. But they won't. I guess its more important to use bills as tactical manuevers for future elections than it is to use them as an attempt to solve problems

I agree that a split legislature isn't a bad thing, and both sides currently are as dug in as each other, with every major thing written in such a way to make it difficult for the other party to support them.

I've not heard of a Plain bill - what's one of them?

 

[Dax777]

I agree that a split legislature isn't a bad thing, and both sides currently are as dug in as each other, with every major thing written in such a way to make it difficult for the other party to support them.

I've not heard of a Plain bill - what's one of them?

By plain bill I meant a bill that isn't purposely written to make the other side oppose it.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

By plain bill I meant a bill that isn't purposely written to make the other side oppose it.

Ah, thanks. The capital P confused me.

 

[Dax777]

That still doesn't explain why Republicans didn't deal with those issues when they were in the position to force them through the House.

Agreed they too failed. As just like in the Democratic Party now, there are also factions in the Republican Party too. So you are correct that they could have done more. They failed with their health bill attempt 2ice, then passed a tax rate reduction bill instead. There are multiple strands of Republicans (well as there are Democrats) and they don't all necessarily want the same thing.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Apparently, Trump didn't really get on with Jeffery...….. much.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

 

[bluethrunthru]

Apparently, Trump didn't really get on with Jeffery...….. much.

Fake news - with his core you are up against this sort of thing

 

[ROCKET80]

The English are not as Nationalistic or as Patriotic as Americans are. But if I'm wrong Im open to correction.

Just because we're not gun toting, miniature flag waving, stop everything for a national anthem simpletons doesn't mean we're not patriotic. We have idiots like that too but they're in the minority, although if you stopped serving them beer at a sporting event because the national anthem was playing there would be carnage :-)

The states obsession with 'patriotism', the flag, anthem and their armed services I find disturbing and people like Trump are able to take advantage of it for their own gain.

Having said that the UKs obsession with the Royal family is equally if not more disturbing and less explainable.

For the majority of people, despite having different political views, we all love the countries we come from/live in. We just have different views on how to make them better and what defines being patriotic...There is a small percentage that look to take advantage of this for their own gain. Trump is one of the latter.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Epstein's story is not surprisingly starting to unravel.

No wonder racist Donny has had a bee in his bonnet of late.

 

[Dax777]

Just because we're not gun toting, miniature flag waving, stop everything for a national anthem simpletons doesn't mean we're not patriotic. We have idiots like that too but they're in the minority, although if you stopped serving them beer at a sporting event because the national anthem was playing there would be carnage :-)

The states obsession with 'patriotism', the flag, anthem and their armed services I find disturbing and people like Trump are able to take advantage of it for their own gain.

Having said that the UKs obsession with the Royal family is equally if not more disturbing and less explainable.

For the majority of people, despite having different political views, we all love the countries we come from/live in. We just have different views on how to make them better and what defines being patriotic...There is a small percentage that look to take advantage of this for their own gain. Trump is one of the latter.

Agreed and thanks. But there is a basis for fanatical American Patriotism. But this perhaps isn't the thread for that. As to Trump taking advantage of it, I agree he does.