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These are very very dangerous times. Unfortunately this will give further encouragement to the racists crawling out of the woodwork all over the world.

And make no mistake, Boris is a populist. I believe, or rather hope, he’d never go as far as Trump but seriously who knows these days.

We’re losing our decency and humanity and when the most powerful man in the world whips up racist frenzy like this I don’t know how anyone can not see similar comparisons to Hitler’s rise to power.
 
All of this will be fine though because like it or not the American economy has grown for 121 months, that is the longest period of sustained growth since records began in 1854. The stock market has rose by 19% and in June alone there were 244,000 jobs created, that is twice as many as needed to keep up with the population growth of the workforce. Of course add in historically low levels of inflation and this gives Trump a certain latitude to behave as he does. As Clinton said, its the economy stupid and if a recession does not arrive before the next election, I am fairly sure that four more years of Trump will follow.

I think Trump is uncouth, a veritable racist and all round obnoxious ****, but his record on the economy so far is pretty good.
 
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The blue phantom said:
Looking like this election could be as rancid as the last one
Just look at all those racist bastards lapping it all up and feeding his ego.
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James O'Brien on LBC nailed Trump ages ago. He basically said Trump accuses the other ‘side’ of doing what he does so if/when he gets accused of it he and his supporters can shrug it off. For example he has called those Democrats ‘hate filled extremists’ - where can they go from there?
 
When you have crowds chanting "send her back" in relation to the 4 women of colour that were racially insulted by Trump How much further can this go?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/17/trump-rally-send-her-back-ilhan-omar

This does not bode well and takes things to another level of white supremacist, people chanting against non white people to send them back?. How long before he turns his guns on the black American and they get a dose of Trump's vile medicine. The genie is already out of the bottle and something has to give here before this gets cranked up a whole new level and here we are just over half way into it's presidency.
 
Mike D said:
When you have crowds chanting "send her back" in relation to the 4 women of colour that were racially insulted by Trump How much further can this go?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/17/trump-rally-send-her-back-ilhan-omar

This does not bode well and takes things to another level of white supremacist, people chanting against non white people to send them back?. How long before he turns his guns on the black American and they get a dose of Trump's vile medicine. The genie is already out of the bottle and something has to give here before this gets cranked up a whole new level and here we are just over half way into it's presidency.
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Unfortunately we are probably just over one quarter of his Presidency
 
SWP's back said:
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As for the US economy, it’s another credit created bubble that has seen tax take reduce whilst spending has increased at the same time.

The US are also a mere few weeks off default and running out of money - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...si-u-s-may-run-out-of-cash-in-early-september
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I acknowledge there are downsides, the fact so many are in work will cause wage pressures that can lead to inflation. Its also concerning only 11% of GDP is manufacturing and services are now 70% of output. We are mirroring them in that. The banks are well capitalised and the housing stock has fallen from 188% of GDP to 143% of GDP. Bond markets are alarmed though which is a traditional sign of an impending downturn and global trade chains are threatened by Trumps idiotic trade wars. Private debt remains at 250% of GDP which obviously is fragile, a sign of low interest rates which will not last forever. A rise in the rates could hit investment and then recession could follow.

In no way was I was supporting Trump, I was merely suggesting that the economic news is a cover for his misdemeanours. He gets away with being a **** because people have some spare dollars.
 
Rascal said:
All of this will be fine though because like it or not the American economy has grown for 121 months, that is the longest period of sustained growth since records began in 1854. The stock market has rose by 19% and in June alone there were 244,000 jobs created, that is twice as many as needed to keep up with the population growth of the workforce. Of course add in historically low levels of inflation and this gives Trump a certain latitude to behave as he does. As Clinton said, its the economy stupid and if a recession does not arrive before the next election, I am fairly sure that four more years of Trump will follow.

I think Trump is uncouth, a veritable racist and all round obnoxious ****, but his record on the economy so far is pretty good.
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You know what happens to bubbles. At some point they pop.
If the Americans can keep their debt fuelled bubble from popping for another year then he has a chance of being re-elected.
At some point though it will pop and there will be a recession over there.
More steady sustainable growth is always better but that doesn't allow him to boast about the stock market overheating.
When the recession happens he will of course blame the Dems and the Fed. His regular criticisms of the Fed chairman not following Trump's advice are his preparation for this scenario.
 
Well, there are two things happening today that Trump needs a distraction from:

The Epstein bail hearing - Could have bearing on any plea deal, which has implications for anyone who has/had ties with him in the past.

The release of previously sealed information in the SDNY campaign finance investigations. Since Barr took over as AG, that investigation seemed to 'wrap up' pretty quickly. The government attempted to get 'sensitive' information withheld, but the judge in the case said no.

Let's wait and see what happens.

I expect a download of rage tweets at some point.
 
SWP's back said:
Hitler and Mussolini like this post.

As for the US economy, it’s another credit created bubble that has seen tax take reduce whilst spending has increased at the same time.

The US are also a mere few weeks off default and running out of money - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...si-u-s-may-run-out-of-cash-in-early-september
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And if they do, Trump will blame the Congress and the Dems for not raising the debt ceiling.

Surely at some point the debt will become unsustainable. When is this likely to happen?
 
west didsblue said:
And if they do, Trump will blame the Congress and the Dems for not raising the debt ceiling.

Surely at some point the debt will become unsustainable. When is this likely to happen?
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Not for a good while yet but Trump is crazy to increase the deficit at a time when all is apparently rosy in the garden. Anyone with half a brain would be running a surplus at this time but then he wouldn’t have reduced the tax burden on the ultra rich.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
Jesus just seen one of his rallies all his supporters are now chanting “ send them back “

Fucking ell scary stuff
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I was going to post something similar. How long will it take for "send her back" to "send them back"

Like Chris Rock says in that clip I posted "N****S and Jews are next"

Very worrying times
 
Rascal said:
All of this will be fine though because like it or not the American economy has grown for 121 months, that is the longest period of sustained growth since records began in 1854. The stock market has rose by 19% and in June alone there were 244,000 jobs created, that is twice as many as needed to keep up with the population growth of the workforce. Of course add in historically low levels of inflation and this gives Trump a certain latitude to behave as he does. As Clinton said, its the economy stupid and if a recession does not arrive before the next election, I am fairly sure that four more years of Trump will follow.

I think Trump is uncouth, a veritable racist and all round obnoxious ****, but his record on the economy so far is pretty good.
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Have you seen their deficit and national debt?
 
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