You are on the wind up aren’t you. Reduced allocations at the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal for years, half empty stands at the likes of Wigan and Birmingham, pitiful away support at places like Swansea, Newcastle, Southampton. Less than a 1000 at Villa, 600 at Millwall, the list is endless so let’s not rewrite history"As the old saying goes you always hurt the ones that love you the most, a decision that the club will come to regret, many many games in the last decade have been a hard sell despite the success, the core have always picked up the slack, now the incentive has gone I suspect swathes of empties at the unattractive fixtures, and it will be totally deserved"
This is absolute bollox, regardless of what division we were in we have always sold out our away allocation!
Here's a more democratic way of doing things in the future.
After the club have discussed idea's with the reps, they should give every season ticket holder a chance to vote on it.
There should be a page on the OS where the idea is posted, you need to be a season ticket holder, you need to log in with your OS user details, then you vote. Once you have voted you cannot vote again. And there is a set tme to cast your vote. Once the votes are counted, the decision is final, and displayed on the OS.
That way you involve as many sesdson ticket holders as possible, and not just the reps, and small selected groups of City fans.
All the committed away supporters I know are in their mid to late fifties or older. This includes disabled supporters who also have huge travel issues that able bodied fans don't have to deal with.
What do they all have in common? They want to watch City home and away regardless of where or when it is. The last thing they are doing is offloading their tickets just to gain loyalty points. I'm not one of them any more but as far as I'm concerned they deserve respect not snide insinuations that they are 'points whores'.
Yeah, greatI believe all Blues should have equal access to tickets. That's why I personally favour a ballot system, or any other system that gives an equal chance for tickets to everybody.
I don't agree that somebody that has been lucky enough to have the time and money to do all aways for the last X number of years, is somehow more deserving than somebody that hasn't had that opportunity.
I think this is a great idea.
I think it'd be great for one of the City Matters reps to pick this up because it's a lot harder to abuse and make veiled threats to 40,000+ fans rather than a single representative if they decide something that pisses off those who feel they are entitled to go to all aways.
You are on the wind up aren’t you. Reduced allocations at the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal for years, half empty stands at the likes of Wigan and Birmingham, pitiful away support at places like Swansea, Newcastle, Southampton. Less than a 1000 at Villa, 600 at Millwall, the list is endless so let’s not rewrite history
You’re wasting your breath mate, he ain’t interestedI think when you said 'entitled' you meant 'have earned the right'.
I think when you said 'entitled' you meant 'have earned the right'.
I believe all Blues should have equal access to tickets. That's why I personally favour a ballot system, or any other system that gives an equal chance for tickets to everybody.
I don't agree that somebody that has been lucky enough to have the time and money to do all aways for the last X number of years, is somehow more deserving than somebody that hasn't had that opportunity.
I've been very lucky over the years. Lucky enough to spend a large proportion of my disposable income on following City away. Lucky enough to use a large chunk of my holidays from work following City away. Lucky enough to have been at Sunderland and West Brom and Swansea away, midweek in the early rounds of the League cup. One lucky bastard me.
Comrade KnaresboroughBlue, get in touch when we play Liverpool away, I'll send you my ticket. After all why should I have all the luck.
You might also want to check out the definition of the word 'luck', I have a nagging feeling you haven't quite nailed it.
Think they have earned the right.
Lucky enough to be born at a time when you could afford to buy away tickets.
Wrong (and I know it's superfluous to use that word for any of your posts, but I just wanted to be explicit on this occasion).
Under the old and new systems if you have earned the points, not only might you think you're entitled to go to the game, you actually are entitled to go to the game.
I'd rather be 27 than 57 and if I was I'd recognise the debt I owed to the people who carried the club through the dark days, the people who define what our club is, the people who made our fan base unique.
I'd also roll up my sleeves and get cracking paying my dues by going to all the aways I could. I suppose I just have a stronger sense of fair play than you.
Why are people objecting to these changes? If you are a high points holder who goes to the majority of games home and away (as your points total suggests) then nothing changes for you.
I feel the protests are precisely because this is what a lot of the longstanding high points holders no longer actually do. They simply preserve their previously hard earned points totals by buying tickets they have absolutely zero intention of attending and farm the tickets on. Thus preserving forever their ability to pick and choose the games they want to attend. It had become a closed shop.
Anything that is intended to stop this surely has to be welcomed?
I’m surprised the club give a fuck who goes to away games.
As the old saying goes you always hurt the ones that love you the most, a decision that the club will come to regret, many many games in the last decade have been a hard sell despite the success, the core have always picked up the slack, now the incentive has gone I suspect swathes of empties at the unattractive fixtures, and it will be totally deserved
Without wanting to get into pedantics, I made it clear I was talking about any future away system decided by the fans that might piss off those who 'think they are entitled' or those who 'think they have earned the right'.
But anyway, I don't get why you're being so abusive. You said yourself there was a 'big flaw' (or something along those lines) with the system with regards to the way it treated younger fans which is why you wanted a rolling points system. Or have you changed your mind now?