Deal agreed with Bayern Munich for Leroy Sane - €60m (including add-ons)

[Steve68]

There's a lot of people skilled at reading between the lines on this thread.

Maybe but G has stated publicly that there is an offer on the table waiting for a response. He also said he wants him to stay but if he doesn’t then he can go.

It doesn’t take much reading between the lines to guess Sane wants more money than the club is offering and we already know how firmly the club holds to its wage structure discipline.

Sadly it feels like Sane wants a lot more than the club is willing to pay, in which case if a deal can be done, he’s on his way out. I really hope not.

 

[Ric]

No-one really knows what the club has offered in terms of wages, or what Sane and his representatives have asked for so it’s just conjecture at this point. Presumably though they are not poles apart, otherwise Sane would have made clear his desire to leave. Still hopeful that a compromise will be found, and that he’ll sign a new deal.

 

[razman]

 

[Withnail]

Hope this is true, would hate it if Leroy joined Bayern a truly odious club. Ideally want him to sign a contract at City asap, but if he starts the season playing in the starting 11 this may influence his decision on extending his contract

 

[The blue phantom]

From the star - "Sane has rejected all those offers to date and made it clear that he expects to be put on one of the highest pay levels at City because he believes that his contributions to their past two Premier League winning campaigns merit that.

Fair enough, If which has been reported Walker was put on £170'000 a week recently , Leroy will want close to what Sergio, Raz and Kev are on.

 

[leo_city]

Fair enough, If which has been reported Walker was put on £170'000 a week recently , Leroy will want close to what Sergio, Raz and Kev are on.

For a player not even guaranteed a spot in our starting XI demanding that much, that's probably why most think he'll leave.

 

[Cobwebcat]

There's a lot of people skilled at reading between the lines on this thread.

If all the facts were known there would be nothing to talk about and no thread.

If people didn't read between the lines there would be nothing to talk about and no thread.

Whether people are skilled at it or not isnt important on a fan forum. We do know there are a lot of people interested at the moment, that is true.

 

[ancoats]

Not at the same level, in my opinion. Mancini couldn't get us to play like this and ultimately pissed everyone off. Pellegrini had us playing scintillating football but couldn't sustain it and was too nice to deal with the problem players in the squad. Neither of them has the pulling power of Guardiola when it comes to player acquisition.

We'll be great, sure, but these are the glory years and I'm loving every day of it.

the whole point of bring in the right people in was not just for pep, yes pep is a key figure now but the future must have been dressed for life after pep as well, because the setup would not work like it as done, this is a 2013 project and foundations was set and the fruit is just not ripe yet

 

[Marvin]

Bayern are being played. Go and burn your money on Dembele.

 

[carlosthejackal]

If we value him at around £80- £100 million then his new contract offer from the club should reflect that , I would imagine he is asking the market rate which he is perfectly entitled to do .

 

[ancoats]

Fair enough, If which has been reported Walker was put on £170'000 a week recently , Leroy will want close to what Sergio, Raz and Kev are on.

the new deal on the the table for sane would be inline with the others at the club, and like i said earlier it will be based on targets and game time and bonuses and i think that's right, most clubs will have the same structure based on playing and a basic wage and bonuses with targets

sane should be on a better wage and rightly so but it must could with targets and playing time, that way you get the best out of a young player, and if he is still not happy then let him go because he is in football for the wrong things and not willing to push himself to prove he wants other things than big money

 

[ancoats]

If we value him at around £80- £100 million then his new contract offer from the club should reflect that , I would imagine he is asking the market rate which he is perfectly entitled to do .

i think the club value him a lot more than that ?? and munich know it

 

[carlosthejackal]

i think the club value him a lot more than that ?? and munich know it[/QUOTE

If they do then his new contract offer should reflect that , so he should in reality be on a par with Aguero, Sterling and KDB . We can’t have it both ways .

 

[BlueRockape]

If Leroy wants parity pay with Raheem Kun and alike I say give it to him.

1 His potential is world beater
2 We are facing a transfer ban
3 We probably only have two years of Kun David leaving
4 Better than Mahrez
5 Our future dependant on players of Leroy,s ability

I think the German rags see more in him than we do he really could be the next Ronaldo Mesie ect a real world poster boy the potential is there.
IMHO

 

[FantasyIreland]

For a player not even guaranteed a spot in our starting XI demanding that much, that's probably why most think he'll leave.

Starting for our 11 as opposed to our opponents is like comparing apples and oranges.

Leroy is a worldie,every club on the planet would want him,he rightly commands and demands top wages.

 

[Cobwebcat]

Sane's estimated transfer value, using the average of a number of different sources (like CIES) is £123 million.

That would put him close to the top 10 most expensive players on the planet.

Given that, it's normal that his pay should be reflective of a top 10 player. If it's true that he would be on the same money as say Walker then that's too little. He should be one of our top 5 paid players at least, objectively.

Maybe the problem is we don't rate him that highly yet which has opened the door to the clubs that perhaps do. No way can Bayern afford £123 million though which is why they are trying to get him very cheap.

How many times have us blues said "well if you value that player at X million why aren't you paying him more?" The same applies to our players.

It's a shame Pep and Sane aren't a great fit because we will probably be taking into consideration his number of first team starts when we come up with a figure in addition to his long term potential.

One consideration should be that Pep might be gone in 2 years while Sane could be a better fit with the next guy and be 2 more years mature in nature.

 

[leo_city]

Starting for our 11 as opposed to our opponents is like comparing apples and oranges.

Leroy is a worldie,every club on the planet would want him,he rightly commands and demands top wages.

I have no doubt on that, I'm just considering an angle.

I want him to stay at all costs, but the club may not think he's worth that much.

His potential ceiling is crazy high, I see him as a future Ballon D'Or winner if he continues developing well

 

[Marvin]

I have no doubt on that, I'm just considering an angle.

I want him to stay at all costs, but the club may not think he's worth that much.

His potential ceiling is crazy high, I see him as a future Ballon D'Or winner if he continues developing well

He's quite some way behind Raheem, De Bruyne and Bernardo imo. I know what you mean though. Outstanding potential. He has to realise it though. I have a little question mark in my mind if he has the same drive as those players. Top players are driven. He has yet to show that.

I don't see him going to Bayern this Summer. Whether we can keep hold of him beyond this season is another issue.

Not sure a City player will ever win any individual prizes. They should but it seems the better we get, the more hostile the media/football industry becomes.

 

[OccupiedPalestineBlues]

If Leroy wants parity pay with Raheem Kun and alike I say give it to him.

1 His potential is world beater
2 We are facing a transfer ban
3 We probably only have two years of Kun David leaving
4 Better than Mahrez
5 Our future dependant on players of Leroy,s ability

I think the German rags see more in him than we do he really could be the next Ronaldo Mesie ect a real world poster boy the potential is there.
IMHO

IMO

1. Yes I agree that he has potential to become a world beater so has potential to earn world beaters wages like Aguero / Sterling / KDB etc. and he will do when he becomes a world beater and gets to start most games by proving himself indespensible.
2. We might ultimately get a transfer ban (due to young player recruitment issues) but, if so, it is most likely to be less than Chelsea's so one window at most.
3. Sane is not a replacement for Aguero or D Silva. I'm not saying that he could never play more infield, and it would be interesting to see, but he's not a replacement for Aguero or D Silva in waiting.
4. He's definitely better than Mahrez on the left wing and Mahrez is better than him on the right wing. I think Mahrez will shine this season now that he's had time to bed in (like Bernardo did) Sane has had 3 years with us but hasn't managed to nail down his spot yet . . if he does do then he's met his potential and deserves the money for it.
5. Our future is dependant upon players of ability (players who do it consistently now) not players of potential ability (players who are hit and miss and might become consistant one day).

I love so much about Leroy as a player but I see this as a situation where he's most likely been offerred a "City style" contract whereby he gets a basic plus all kinds of win and appearance bonuses. I think his problem is that he doesn't presently get enough appearance to trigger some bonuses so won't earn what he thinks he's worth unless Pep promises him guaranteed playing time. Pep will play him every game if Pep thinks he's the best player to put on the field in every game but he'd need to earn that and that's hard work - if he goes to Bayern it will be because they've turned his head by guaranteeing regular starts as their star player, not because of money.
So, if he goes then it's because his character wasn't right for our club and if he stays it's because he's staying for all the right reasons (compare that to that tool Pogba at united downing tools, hawking himself to PL rivals, dissing his club in the press and causing all kinds of grief - he make Leroy look like a saint by comparrison but that's just because Sane is acting professionally and Pogba is a dickhead).
In the interim, Leroy wears a blue shirt, never bad mouths us to the press. He's got my support right now, he'll get all of my support if he stays and he'll get a big 'thank you' and a wave goodbye if he leaves.

 

[mayo31]

The question for me, is Sane worth disrupting a team/squad for in terms of his pay and how he plays.

Low certainly thought not so left him out of the world cup.

Pep sees him as being potentially good for the team but Sane himself has not done what is always asked of him. So Pep does not play him as much as Sane likes.

Then his wages, how anyone right know could say he deserves parity with Sterling, Ken, sergio and Bernardo for examples is just wrong.

So we are threatened with the loss of money if he does not sign and walks away.

Ok but we have at least if we want another full season from him. Just do that, things can change. He might play superbly and justify another offer.

He might play shite and he goes.

One thing for sure City will carry on