Another new Brexit thread

[lust overlord]

The discussion about it should have been taken seriously, not dismissed as being "fruitcakes and loonies".

What I will agree is that the referendum was held at least 4 years too soon, but it was election year wasn't it; Cameron had to promise his dissenters something.

Yes, and this is what were all stuck with.
Hoping that something half decent will turn up.

 

[Metal Biker]

Yes, and this is what were all stuck with.
Hoping that something half decent will turn up.

Parliament won't accept no deal, despite BoJo's bluster, so that ain't happening. I don't see any other outcome other than Parliament just deciding not to leave. It'll anger a large portion of the electorate, but I doubt they care about that.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

You might have been able to describe my dad in the 70's as aspirational - but middle class? not so much.

None of the forgegoing bourgeois paraphernalia chez-nous, either.

You'll be reminiscing about vesta curry, arctic roll and Le Piat D'or next............

 

[yerwot?]

Very possibly,still a right wing capitalisation of the issue though.
Therefore a right wing leave.

It's a trade off ,a lot of stuff that comes from it you may not like for the odd thing that you do.

There is "rt wing" and then it's evil spawn "thatcherism" Brexit is a thatcherite construct, no question, just a glance at it's paymasters proves it ,all the bollox about sovereignety, fkin trajectory, eu this and eu that just a smokescreen to make it less repugnant. The racism card did the damage to the remain cause, a new low for an already disgraced media

 

[Ban-jani]

In your (not so) humble opinion...

And that of every industry expert, the government, the Bank of England etc. Etc.

 

[Ban-jani]

If we don't leave now there will not be another crack further down the line

You know that

There will be the opportunity for you to vote for a party who’s sole policy is leave, we won’t further down the line because the general public will never vote for this shite again, and you know that.

 

[west didsblue]

Yes it would. The longer our Parliamentarians ignored the issue, the stronger it was going to get.

It was only a matter of time before someone like Farage capitalised on the issue; it had been growing since the late 80's.

...thanks to the persistent low level campaign by the right wing press. Without daft stories about straight bananas, butter mountains, lies about new rules forcing the abolition of pints and miles, Bulgarian and Romanian hordes invading no one would have given a toss about our EU membership.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

...thanks to the persistent low level campaign by the right wing press. Without daft stories about straight bananas, butter mountains, lies about new rules forcing the abolition of pints and miles, Bulgarian and Romanian hordes invading no one would have given a toss about our EU membership.

I bought one of those straight bananas in the supermarket yesterday . It was not very nice . It was very straight but it was also very green. To be honest it tasted like cucumber.

 

[west didsblue]

I bought one of those straight bananas in the supermarket yesterday . It was not very nice . It was very straight but it was also very green. To be honest it tasted like cucumber.

Ironically I bought a bent cucumber yesterday that was yellower than any cucumber I'd ever seen. It was much easier to peel than any cucumber I'd bought previously. Didn't even need a knife.

 

[mcfc1632]

That would be nice :))

LEXIT, is the left wing approach to leaving the EU as championed once upon a time by the likes of Tony Benn. It basically sees the EU as a capitalist club formed to help spread neo=liberalism and its protectionist outlook denies the right of the UK to enact Socialist policies such as nationalism and state aid for industry. Benn thought the EU did not match his five measures of what constitutes a Democracy which are

1/ What power have you got
2/ Where did you get it from
3/ In whose interests do you exercise it
4/ To whom are you accountable
5/ How can we get rid of you

In my opinion they are pretty powerful questions that always need to be answered in a democracy.

Wow - when you apply those measures to the EU...………...

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

There is "rt wing" and then it's evil spawn "thatcherism" Brexit is a thatcherite construct, no question, just a glance at it's paymasters proves it ,all the bollox about sovereignety, fkin trajectory, eu this and eu that just a smokescreen to make it less repugnant. The racism card did the damage to the remain cause, a new low for an already disgraced media

Not sure I agree. Here's Michael Foot putting the brexit (not joining) case forward back in the day with the tory Heath proposing the case for membership. Worth watching for the quality of debate which is a mile ahead of anything we've seen in the last four years. Also the Thames Tv jingle might go well with @gordondaviesmoustache vesta curry and Arctic roll.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Ironically I bought a bent cucumber yesterday that was yellower than any cucumber I'd ever seen. It was much easier to peel than any cucumber I'd bought previously. Didn't even need a knife.

How did it taste with custard?

 

[Vic]

It is rational, but whoever thought an electorate was rational. It is not, it votes according to perception and what resonates personally to their individual circumstances. Leave won hearts by appealing to an inate sense of Britishness that I don't believe actually exists anymore but it does in peoples minds. Trump did the same in America with his MAGA stuff, it appealed to hearts not minds.

Innate xenophobia maybe.

 

[Saddleworth2]

...thanks to the persistent low level campaign by the right wing press. Without daft stories about straight bananas, butter mountains, lies about new rules forcing the abolition of pints and miles, Bulgarian and Romanian hordes invading no one would have given a toss about our EU membership.

Not many gave a toss about it before the referendum other than some fuckwit tories.

 

[west didsblue]

Looks like the government is planning to spend £100m on a media campaign to rebut the leaked Operation Yellowhammer information. Apparently there might be a few "bumps in the road" but we don't need to worry about No Deal if we all put our minds to it.
Phew, that's alright then.

 

[Vic]

Absolutely my perception as well, which is why myself and many other leave voters paid no attention to Vote Leave or Farage's rantings and instead chose to focus on our issues with the EU, weighed up the pros and cons and decided, ultimately, that it was no longer something we could support, not without assurances made public.

Everyone accepts that the referendum campaigns were appalling in delivering any useful information, they were just campaigns to persuade using emotive, charged language, but whilst it's accepted people were not persuaded by Stronger In's message, it's not accepted that people were also not persuaded by Vote Leave's, and it makes me wonder why that is.

Sounds like a mind at work there rather than a heart.

Leavers can't even agree on how Remain lost.

 

[west didsblue]

How did it taste with custard?

Surprisingly good.
Not quite as good when I garnished a chicken sandwich with it.

 

[Vic]

I have to admit, it's horrifying what not having left yet seems to have done to the economy. Just shows - sooner we leave the better. Can't really argue otherwise with those figures. It looks like it's been bad for the EU growth too compared to the US.

Halfway down. Still not opening the parachute.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Wow - when you apply those measures to the EU...………...

Indeed, but also equally difficult questions to ask of our current government.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Surprisingly good.
Not quite as good when I garnished a chicken sandwich with it.

Nice in a G & T though eh?