A Turning Point

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7evens

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Looking at where things have gone for us since the takeover, this felt like the big turning point. We won the FA Cup semi-final the year before and battered them 6-1 at Old Trafford, yes, but I think this was when we properly rattled Ferguson for the first time. The first time we wound him up and he snapped back. The FA Cup semi started the shift, the 6-1 set the gears in motion, and this little gesture (along with the win and everything it meant) was when we finally, properly got under Ferguson's skin, right before he retired and left them in a just a little bit of a mess.

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For me the turning point was the fa cup semi.
We were improving but when they needed to win they normally did it whoever they were playing.
To beat them at Wembley in such a big game said we had arrived, we were now going to take them on as equals and they didn't like it/couldn't understand it.
The 1-6 at the swamp next year confirmed it but Wembley started it.
 
I think the first time I watched a game and thought we're better than United was when Rooney scored the shinner at Old Trafford. We got beat 2-1 but I remember being in a pub wearing stupid 3D goggles surrounded by United fans - which would normally wind me up on derby day, but being pretty calm about it because we played ok (not amazing) but we were still managing to keep the ball with ease and outplay them for long periods. Looking back on the players we had on the pitch that day compared to United's, we should have demolished them to be honest but I knew the tide had turned. Roll on a couple of months and we were beating them at Wembley in the FA Cup.
 
Ballet On Ice said:
For me the turning point was the fa cup semi.
We were improving but when they needed to win they normally did it whoever they were playing.
To beat them at Wembley in such a big game said we had arrived, we were now going to take them on as equals and they didn't like it/couldn't understand it.
The 1-6 at the swamp next year confirmed it but Wembley started it.
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Yep, this was it for me. Coming out on top in a MASSIVE game on the big stage proved that the tide was turning. And you're right that they couldn't take it - as demonstrated by the ridiculous over-reaction to Balotelli's wink.
 
Think I knew the tide had turned when I saw the line up for the 6-1. I thought we had a decent chance that day even though Old Trafford had not been a good place for us to visit. We were comfy in that first half and survived an onslaught towards the end of the half which was to be expected, then the second half. Fuck me Ive never ever wanted that game to end, every time we went forward we either scored or looked like scoring.
 
7evens said:
Looking at where things have gone for us since the takeover, this felt like the big turning point. We won the FA Cup semi-final the year before and battered them 6-1 at Old Trafford, yes, but I think this was when we properly rattled Ferguson for the first time. The first time we wound him up and he snapped back. The FA Cup semi started the shift, the 6-1 set the gears in motion, and this little gesture (along with the win and everything it meant) was when we finally, properly got under Ferguson's skin, right before he retired and left them in a just a little bit of a mess.

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That was THE moment imo! Not just beating them on the pitch, we had a manager who didn’t give a fuck about fergies reputation and infront of millions of people around the world put him in his place!
 
7evens said:
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I love that picture for more than one reason - Fergusons body language is exactly the same as every bully who ever got called out.

"What? How dare you? Do you know who I am?" all portrayed right there in his demeanor. United never really recovered that "we will bully everyone and you will be scared of us before you even step on the grass" mentality - us and others were no longer intimidated to go to Old Trafford or to play them at home.

That period between 2010 - 2012 was turning point for the entire league! Even referees seemed less likely to add on the extra 5 minutes Fergie wanted and no longer paid attention to his prematch referee influencing.(with some exceptions)

Mourinho, Benetiz, Keegan and Wenger were all cowed by Fergusons "mind games" over the years - but that photo shows only one winner!
 
richards30 said:
That was THE moment imo! Not just beating them on the pitch, we had a manager who didn’t give a fuck about fergies reputation and infront of millions of people around the world put him in his place!
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Used to love the way Bobby would refer to him as "Ferguson", none of the fawning "SirAlex" nonsense like so many others.
 
7evens said:
Looking at where things have gone for us since the takeover, this felt like the big turning point. We won the FA Cup semi-final the year before and battered them 6-1 at Old Trafford, yes, but I think this was when we properly rattled Ferguson for the first time. The first time we wound him up and he snapped back. The FA Cup semi started the shift, the 6-1 set the gears in motion, and this little gesture (along with the win and everything it meant) was when we finally, properly got under Ferguson's skin, right before he retired and left them in a just a little bit of a mess.

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That image ranks right up there near the Aguero moment.
 
Im convinced on that day, with that result and with that exchange, Ferguson knew his time was up
 
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richards30 said:
That was THE moment imo! Not just beating them on the pitch, we had a manager who didn’t give a fuck about fergies reputation and infront of millions of people around the world put him in his place!
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Fergies? Fergies? I presume you're talking about the GPC?

Go wash your hands and keyboard in a very strong bleach, immediately!
 
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