'Ex pats' sounds oh so colonial.
PS If it all goes to rat shit i.e. no WA deal, no mini deals,no money (39bn +) ,no nothing, are flights still guaranteed? You seem to know so don't be coy, please enlighten us.
For 12 months at least https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-b...ghts-in-no-deal-brexit-scenario-idUKKCN1QO1D0'Ex pats' sounds oh so colonial.
PS If it all goes to rat shit i.e. no WA deal, no mini deals,no money (39bn +) ,no nothing, are flights still guaranteed? You seem to know so don't be coy, please enlighten us.
Actually that was an anecdotal comment from one interviewee (that I saw). It wasn't a BBC report suggesting it or giving any facts or numbers behind it.
I think people live in 'the now' and don't plan for the future. It's sad that many of those interviewed were suffering illnesses and were worried about the cost of medicines etc, and I would hope/expect any future British government to help them out, but agreements between countries are only ever temporary, regardless of how permanent they feel, and they should have taken steps to protect themselves.
I share your concerns, but think it boils down to whether you see the EU as force for good or an abusive partner. I think the later, and equate the risk/pain of leaving with that of someone bailing out of an abusive relationship who is risking financial ruin to do so.
Could you back your 'confidence' up with facts?Im confident flights will continue as i am the sun will still rise and set and the Earth spin on its axis.
Im even more sure that most of us will get on with things but accept that some will want to stand in the road outside of Westminster and probably do more harm to the local/London economy by doing so than brexit itself but eh ho, each to their own.
Morning Bob.Fuck me. The point of being in the EU is that rights for people like Health care are consistent between countries and not subject to the whims and vagaries of individual Govts. You voted to remove our rights and deliberately create a situation where agreements between us and the rest of Europe are temporary, or in the event of no deal non fucking existent, and then breezily say well the silly sods should have planned for the future.
Well yeah I guess they should have prepared themselves for the stupidity of the British electorate. Get to fuck with your temporary shite.
Thank you.For 12 months at least https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-b...ghts-in-no-deal-brexit-scenario-idUKKCN1QO1D0
Assuming the 29th March deadline quoted here is rolled onto the actual leaving date by both parties.
Could you back your 'confidence' up with facts?
Or is just , no flights would be so disastrous neither side would contemplate it?
I get your argument @mcfc1632, I always have and you've repeatedly stated it, that's true.
It may well be that you are finally getting what you wanted on the negotiating table, and the threat of a no-deal, may or may not work.
However what I have repeatedly maintained is that the Irish government stance is the only one that actually seems to have the backing of the island of Ireland and has genuinely got the people North and South and their futures together in mind.
What you describe above is a strategy. A strategy that you have advocated all along.
Your point No 1. above demonstrates to me that you are fully aware that the language you used repeatedly in here was part of that strategy.
The EU need to be seen as bullies!
I did take issue with you once, but decided thereafter that the point didn't need constant repeating, that no matter how many times you used that particular terminology, it didn't make it true.
I appreciate your view and it's not a criticism of your tactic or the tactic that you feel should have been employed, but I regard this strategy to be 'weaponising' (your word) Northern Ireland and the GFA more than anything you regard the EU to be doing.
Thank you.
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As you state these agreements may not be rolled over and could be withdrawn in the event of the UK reneging on it's agreement to pay the 39bn plus.
Nah, no way could I stomach a pink slab of meat covered in egg yoke so early in the morning.It's hard to sympathise when I'm getting ready for work in the dismal Manchester light and they're sat moaning having a cooked breakfast in t-shirts and shorts overlooking the sandy beach, with eff all to do for the rest of the day.
Of course they are. But crashing out of the EU with No Deal will lead to a much bigger downturn than the next upturn. If you think I’m simply arguing from a Remain perspective you’re wrong and you’ve fallen for Johnson and Rees Mogg’s bullshit. I’m arguing against No Deal. An exit arrangement that could transition us into a free trade deal with the EEA countries whilst being outside the EU would satisfy the vote and only screw up the economy by a tolerable amount. We’re a million miles from that though. We’re facing No Deal or a deal that all the Brexiters hate that the Johnson government have adamantly dismissed. Any other deal is fantasy bollocks.
Well knock me down with a feather.More snivelling nonsense from the Brexit Sec.
‘The car industry’s ‘just in time’ supply chains rely on fluid cross-Channel trade routes. >1,100 trucks filled with car parts cross seamlessly from EU into UK each day. We need to start talks now on how we make sure this flow continues if we leave without a deal.’
Really? No shit. Its what we voted for you absolute tit.
I recognise what the GFA is
I recognise that the GFA is very important and needs great care and sensitivity
I recognise what the prevailing conditions were when it was established and how those conditions are about to change
I am confident that Ireland and the UK would/could have undertaken calm diplomacy and joint actions to ensure that processes and workarounds could be designed and amendments could be agreed to ensure smooth cross-border movements and mitigated the risks we hear so much about
I am certain that the EU weaponised the issue for opportunistic reasons
If you genuinely believe that their actions reflect only altruism then I suggest that you should join me in a joint hunt for that pot of gold
I was talking about the fact that economies in the eu and staying in the eu are in recession or on the brink of recession including the biggest countries.
I thought it was an economic super power. The way you talk on here being in the eu would almost be an economic shield from recessions.
Surely we should be already in recession given all the bollox we have had over the last 3 years . We are no worse no better than Germany and France, just with a lot more jobs for our people.
Not really mate.I’m just a pleb so no but then neither can you back your Nostradamus like predictions of the end of the world as we know it Len.
Funny that eh?
The EU is an economic superpower. As are the USA and China irrespective of whether they are in recession or not.
The EU is designed to facilitate trade without barriers across 30 countries. How well those countries do or take advantage of being part of the bloc is entirely down to them. Removing ourselves from it removes our ability to trade freely and without hinderance. How this works to our advantage has yet to be explained.