Another new Brexit thread

[mcfc1632]

He's complaining now that opposition to a ruinous No Deal is undermining his negotiating position of threatening No Deal to get a good deal. Welcome to May'sworld.

Heard him on the news overnight - in an interview from yesterday

At least he has the first clue - or at least his advisers have - about managing negotiations

Hope some on here heard that interview

 

[mcfc1632]

Are expats not bothered? Really?

I have just spent some weeks in Cyprus - not a single concern did I hear form any of the ex-pats I spoke to - and they are generally of an age where access to healthcare is important

 

[west didsblue]

Did you miss out the reciprocal agreements?
When, or if, we ever leave, your points will receive validity when every Brit in Spain, Germany, France, Italy, Holland
and the rest is booted out.
Let's see who's right, OK?

Let’s assume you’re right. Do you think that 100% of UK nationals living in the EU and 100% of EU nationals living in the UK won’t have any problems as a result of No Deal?

 

[blueinsa]

That we aren't as powerful as we were in 1910 and not to trust the American president to stand beside us?

Its relevance to brexit is what im after?

I get its being used as a stick to beat and demean as lowering the status of the UK and getting the message across that without the EU we are helpless but im sorry i dont share it and never will.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Let’s assume you’re right. Do you think that 100% of UK nationals living in the EU and 100% of EU nationals living in the UK won’t have any problems as a result of No Deal?

Difficult to say really, some may get haemorrhoids, some may get binned by the Mrs, unlike many
on here I'm not Mystic Meg.

 

[blueinsa]

Have all Leavers had an empathyectomy?

Not at all.

I cant join in with the fake outrage and sympathy though because im not the one using it to change the result of the ref or us leaving the EU.

 

[blueinsa]

Let’s assume you’re right. Do you think that 100% of UK nationals living in the EU and 100% of EU nationals living in the UK won’t have any problems as a result of No Deal?

Do you think that even now, in the EU 100% dont have issues?

 

[west didsblue]

Difficult to say really, some may get haemorrhoids, some may get binned by the Mrs, unlike many
on here I'm not Mystic Meg.

That’s a new one. Haemorrhoids as a result of No Deal.
Personally I hadn’t thought of that consequence. It’s worse than I thought.

 

[west didsblue]

Do you think that even now, in the EU 100% dont have issues?

100% don’t have issues as a result of No Deal which was the question.

 

[blueinsa]

HALF a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
'Forward, the Light Brigade!
Charge for the guns! ' he said:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

This is the nation that the blimps of the nation treasure so much.

Its a pure joy reading posters coming out with this stuff as they tell us we cant get over the past lol.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

That’s a new one. Haemorrhoids as a result of No Deal.
Personally I hadn’t thought of that consequence. It’s worse than I thought.

Much worse, and after having the operation some years ago, take my advice and stick with the haemorrhoids,
the 'Cure' is having your legs slung in the air like some pornstar, your ringpiece widened with clamps and a scalpel wielded like a Ghurka knife
inside it.
Anyway, I digress;)

 

[blueinsa]

100% don’t have issues as a result of No Deal which was the question.

Well no deal hasn't happened.

You yet again want to pose questions to which there are not any answers as the future isn't yet mapped out.

Im nearly 49 and ive yet to experience life where regardless of the rules in place or plans, i have had much go 100% smooth because thats the realities of life.

Ive lived and worked in South Africa for nearly 5 years and it was a fact of life that i had to sit at Home Affairs lots of times to apply for and pay for my visas.

I accepted it though and got over it pretty quickly and life went on.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Its relevance to brexit is what im after?

I get its being used as a stick to beat and demean as lowering the status of the UK and getting the message across that without the EU we are helpless but im sorry i dont share it and never will.

Both the points I made are entirely relevant to Brexit.

 

[Rascal]

Its relevance to brexit is what im after?

I get its being used as a stick to beat and demean as lowering the status of the UK and getting the message across that without the EU we are helpless but im sorry i dont share it and never will.

As you are scrambling around in the dark looking for meaning, I will answer it for you.

It is not a stick to beat and demean the UK nor is it a message about us being helpless without the EU, on the contrary its a message about the rise of English Nationalism and the desire to live in a time long gone. Its relevance to BREXIT is purely and simply about those English nationalists searching for an identity that no longer exists, it is not relevant to the world we live in and therefore is an embarrassing juxtaposition of Moggian Victorian values and English exceptionalism. Those values have hindered the leave process as highlighted by the idiotic nonsense espoused by Johnson as the UK having its cake and eating it. That overarching arrogance is symptomatic of English exceptionalism and the Colonel Blimp culture of the UK being a once great country that deserves to be treated as a special case based on our historical past not on its relevance in the modern world.

If the leaders of the Brexit cause had abandoned these notions, leaving would have been accomplished without the troubles we have encountered, it is the refusal to countenance that there is no longer a Great in Britain that has hindered the process and lead to the polarisation of the country. We need to forget the past and concentrate on the future by being a modern free thinking country not a country that harks back to history at every opportunity for the simple reason the UK uses its history like the scousers use there history and that frankly gets on peoples tits.

 

[Vic]

Its relevance to brexit is what im after?

I get its being used as a stick to beat and demean as lowering the status of the UK and getting the message across that without the EU we are helpless but im sorry i dont share it and never will.

Helpless without the EU? That is not it.

It's the rhetoric of people saying we came through two world wars so we can get through this. People who haven't personally gone through a world war but literally have said we can grow our own to replace imports and seem to justify the whole mess by creating an enemy. The obsession with the EU has made them mad, mad enough to commit to actions that most believe will damage the UK (while others convince themselves that it's worth it because the EU has problems). And it ends with a politician telling us that to “suspend parliamentary democracy....goes against everything that those men who waded on to those beaches fought and died for” now happily sitting in Johnson's cabinet.

We are no longer a Great Power. We are a Laughing Stock. Some of us do not find that funny but it's not the EU's fault. This is self-inflicted.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Much worse, and after having the operation some years ago, take my advice and stick with the haemorrhoids,
the 'Cure' is having your legs slung in the air like some pornstar, your ringpiece widened with clamps and a scalpel wielded like a Ghurka knife
inside it.
Anyway, I digress;)

I normally have to pay for that. Count yourself lucky.

 

[mcfc1632]

Come back on here when that chef, is it 31 years he's been here? gets forcibly removed from the UK.
In fact, anyone similar, who isn't, or has not committed a criminal offence worthy of deportation.

I accept that I am replying on memory - but did we not get rebuffed by the EU when we offered to guarantee citizens rights but obviously wanted reciprocation which was not forthcoming

In the current situation we should be careful of continuing to go 'belly-up'

Bottom line is I, like you, have no doubts that this will be a satisfactory outcome for all and am disappointed in the scare-mongering

 

[urban genie]

Its a pure joy reading posters coming out with this stuff as they tell us we cant get over the past lol.

Who said you can't? You seem to not be able to seperate the different type of brexit voting people and like to take umbridge at calling the fuckwit ones like francios, rees-mogg and any other pillock who mentions, empire, the war or rule britania.

Those types are pricks and worthy of piss taking.
Those that did it purely because they don't like foriegners are even worse and should be reviled.
However those that did it because they felt their lives and communities are suffering and also don't believe in a more united europe or a capitalist union being in charge are rightly and always should be able to choose to leave and be prou of their democratic choice.

There are many different brexit voters and slagging off some does not necessarily mean you are slagging off all.

The elitist and xenophobes and the outright racist though can fuck off.

 

[mat]

The unelected PM Dominic Cummings has told Tory MP's they wont be able to stand as MP's at the next GE if they support any No Deal stopping legislation according to a jurno that writes for The ***.

RIP Democracy.

 

[mcfc1632]

Difficult to say really, some may get haemorrhoids, some may get binned by the Mrs, unlike many
on here I'm not Mystic Meg.

Love your response to the obvious attempt to get you to make some silly 100% statement - fucking desperate stuff - but proper funny as it is so obvious