Another new Brexit thread

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Anyone with a history of fucking Dianne Abbott should have their sanity questioned.

What about someone with a history of fucking a dead pig?!

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

You're welcome .It'd be the morally correct thing to do. A few hundred years late but better late than never .

I knew there was a catch.
Not going to happen, is it?

 

[Kazzydeyna]

I knew there was a catch.
Not going to happen, is it?

I wish I could tell you you're wrong but you're not .

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Yeah I know. I’m a bit of an old fashioned Unionist but I can’t say I blame the Scots for looking to get out. Irish Reunification looks inevitable which is also fair enough.

Still say my money is on Scotland first.
And I'm not totally convinced of either.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Exactly. There really is no comparison. Prior to the Brexit vote there was just a pamphlet full of lies.

I thought the pamphlet itself was fine, just a lot of money for Cameron to spend reiterating his message.

 

[joe123]

What deal had they negotiated with Westminster? Because that deal wasn't on the ballot paper .

It was a binary choice, given to the people, and we now know that if leave had won they wouldn't have been allowed to leave as they wouldn't have known what they were voting for .

Not a deal per se, but here you go. What the SNP were compelled by Westminster to produce ahead of a referendum. All 600 pages of the fucker.

https://www2.gov.scot/resource/0043/00439021.pdf

Enjoy the read.

 

[joe123]

Exactly. There really is no comparison. Prior to the Brexit vote there was just a pamphlet full of lies.

Yup. Just posted the SNP thing - as we know, the difference between the two referenda is staggering.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Yup. Just posted the SNP thing - as we know, the difference between the two referenda is staggering.

The lack of acceptance of the result seems similar though. The 'losing' side in both constantly seek a rematch. Nothing wrong with that, but it just shows that perhaps however well or badly referenda are run they are probably not a good way of settling a devisive issue.

 

[Rascal]

Bury your head in the sand if you want, I voted Labour all my adult life from James Callaghan to Tony Blair. I can’t vote for the Tories but I don’t want this set of Labour clowns in.

I think you are the one buying the Corbyn package, he’s a fucking joke as are his cohorts.

The redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich? Fuck all to do with the huge National debt and the need to control and manage it then allied with the global banking crisis?

You are changing your tune quickly. If you don't want Labour in that is fine by me, its your choice. I hazard a guess you hate Diane Abbot and think Corbyn is a Marxist which is your prerogative.

The Tories have wracked up the national debt, the global banking crisis was not Labours fault, the clue is in the world Global.

I am a Socialist, I want a Socialist government or the closest thing to Socialism I can find. If that is Corbyn then fine, if it is not another proper Socialist will suffice.

 

[Rascal]

Some people will always make money out of other people’s misery, the short selling of US mortgages made some very wealthy. However you just know if Corbyn was PM it’s not the really wealthy that will suffer (although he will try), it will be vast majority on middle incomes that will pay for his huge social budget.

Its always the middle class that enable Fascism, they protect their interests over that of the nation.

This huge Social budget, do you think it is needed?

 

[BobKowalski]

Rather enjoying these

 

[Didsbury Dave]

The lack of acceptance of the result seems similar though. The 'losing' side in both constantly seek a rematch. Nothing wrong with that, but it just shows that perhaps however well or badly referenda are run they are probably not a good way of settling a devisive issue.

It wasn’t even a fucking divisive issue until the campaign started. That’s one of the many spirit-crushing tragedies about this whole fuck up.

 

[Magicpole]

Me too except there would be no referendum as we would already have left on October 31st.

The Scots get their ref . To be honest we're at the point now where we are morally obliged to grant another ref to the Scots anyway.

What would the snp do if it was offered?

Take it. That’s the end game. It’s all about timing.

 

[joe123]

The lack of acceptance of the result seems similar though. The 'losing' side in both constantly seek a rematch. Nothing wrong with that, but it just shows that perhaps however well or badly referenda are run they are probably not a good way of settling a devisive issue.

True. Which is probably why a lot of referenda that involve massive constitutional upheaval require a super majority, which again you could argue we should've had.

Prob wishful thinking in my head, but had we needed a 2/3 majority, the 52/48 result might have been enough to go back to the EU with and say 'look, we need a bit of reform as this is the way things are going here and you don't want to lose us'. I can but dream.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Thanks very much.

Don't you know that your role here is to grovellingly accept what the Great English Politicians give you. And you can like it too!!
What do you want, a say in it?

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

It wasn’t even a fucking divisive issue until the campaign started. That’s one of the many spirit-crushing tragedies about this whole fuck up.

I was going to ask which referendum you meant, then realised you can apply what you say to either.

 

[Magicpole]

You'll go before NI ever will.

NI not my concern. Would the Republic want it? I’m bit sure. Would anybody?

 

[Magicpole]

Taking back control from your evil Scottish overlords?

We are pure evil.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

True. Which is probably why a lot of referenda that involve massive constitutional upheaval require a super majority, which again you could argue we should've had.

Prob wishful thinking in my head, but had we needed a 2/3 majority, the 52/48 result might have been enough to go back to the EU with and say 'look, we need a bit of reform as this is the way things are going here and you don't want to lose us'. I can but dream.

I'd love to think we could have such a grown up conversation with the EU, but they have a clear agenda and timetable for further economic and fiscal integration which precludes it.

 

[Magicpole]

Further evidence the world is going mad. “Mark Carney has given Brexiteers cheer by revising his forecasts, in light of the recent Brexit preparations.

GDP only going down by 5.5% not 8%.
Food prices only up 5-6% not 10%.
Unemployment up to 7% not 7.5%
He also says that inflation should peak at 5.5% so that’s all alright then.

Break out the bunting and get fucking Vera Lynn on the gramophone.

One two three, Itler eez only got one ball...and fade.