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Another new Brexit thread
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Rascal
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All part of the master plan. They wouldn’t have it any other way
Just wait until we leave and the real blame game starts.....but we won’t be looking up. We’ll be blaming each other. And maybe teenage single mums, they’ve had an easy ride for the past few years
I honestly think a James Bond villain would struggle to come up with such a dastardly plan. It is fucking insane.
You are right, single teenage mums have not had any stick for a while, they are due some. The disabled are always good for a bit of kicking as well and of course immigrants are easy targets. Transgender folk are moving up the charts pretty quick so they could be blamed and there is always the Germans, don't forget the Germans.
Somebody will be blamed for the whole shebang and you can almost guarantee it will not be the Tory party or its nutjobs.
East Level 2
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Ask anybody who has applied for ESA or PIP and you'll see they are already getting a kicking.I honestly think a James Bond villain would struggle to come up with such a dastardly plan. It is fucking insane.
You are right, single teenage mums have not had any stick for a while, they are due some. The disabled are always good for a bit of kicking as well and of course immigrants are easy targets. Transgender folk are moving up the charts pretty quick so they could be blamed and there is always the Germans, don't forget the Germans.
Somebody will be blamed for the whole shebang and you can almost guarantee it will not be the Tory party or its nutjobs.
As for blame: Remainers who suffer from the Brexit shit-storm will blame Farage and the Tories, while leavers will blame the EU.
Rascal
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Ask anybody who has applied for ESA or PIP and you'll see they are already getting a kicking.
As for blame: Remainers who suffer from the Brexit shit-storm will blame Farage and the Tories, while leavers will blame the EU.
I know mate, I lost 40% of my income when I was moved from DLA to PIP. The letter I received said I was observed opening a bottle of water. They used that as an excuse to say i didnt need top rate. Sadly i ended up in hospital shortly after and never appealed.
The woman who was doing the assessment had never even heard of my condition and didnt even examine me.
west didsblue
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Even if we were to ignore the convoluted strangulated construction of the question and interpret it in the way I assume it is meant, it is a logical fallacy that the second part of the question is a consequence of answering no to the first part, as E.U. rules relate only to E.U. citizens and individual countries can formulate their own rules in relation to non-EU citizens.Ha ha - so witty - so incisive
You are right and it makes me feel lonely - so I can get you to come and join me
All that is needed is for you to answer the following question - with honesty:
Simple question and resist the urge to deflect - give a yes or no answer
Does a citizen of all non-EU nations enjoy the same opportunity to move to the UK as an EU citizen? or is there a level to which EU citizen is recognised and a distinction/differentiation is made?
Remember yes or no - oh and most of all - be honest
If your answer is No (spoiler - it is/should be) then yippee - we share the same opinion
If your answer is Yes - then I refer you back to the need to be honest
You probably wouldn’t understand.
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blueinsa
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“Energy”
“Good will”
Still even now.
“Cliff edge”
We still haven’t fallen off one.
“Cliff edge”
We still haven’t fallen off one.
A) tell that to the pound
B) “cliff edge” is in reference to no deal which hasn’t happened
C) we’ve not even left yet anyway
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blueinsa
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Chuka turncoat on sky saying a GE returning an anti brexit party would signal they are right to revoke.
Pity he didn’t feel the same about pro brexit parties being returned at the last GE.
Fucking laughable.
Pity he didn’t feel the same about pro brexit parties being returned at the last GE.
Fucking laughable.
stonerblue
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I was gonna make this point myself but you've saved me the job.ANY restrictive immigration policy of a nation state inherently discriminates against another nationality or category of people. Why should a collective agreement between 28 nation states to allow FoM of people, goods and services be any different? Would you prefer the alternative of global, unrestricted FoM between all nation states as that is the only policy that would remove the discriminatory element completely?
BobKowalski
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You view things as you are desperate to it seems
Quick question:
Has Bettel helped to improve the image of the EU within the minds of UK citizens that are not already, like you, committed to Remain?
If I was in charge of the upcoming Remain campaign in a GE I would be groaning
Bettel, like the leaders of all other European countries, only gives a shit about the minds of his citizens. We seem to be under the assumption that no other European country has domestic politics or forget that opinion in their own domestic politics is far more important to leaders than opinion of citizens in another country.
EU heads of state are not interested in ‘remain’ opinion in the U.K. They are only interested in making sure our dysfunction does not infect them hence their desire to dump us out via an orderly exit process ASAP.
You are quite odd. The question did not ask if the EU rules discriminate.There you go it was not hard was it the rest was superfluous as you attempt to deflect. Just a fact that the EU rules discriminate...….. etc.
Anyway having established the simple truth I will leave it there
Your basic claim is that the EU FOM rules are discriminatory. When challenged you used a dictionary definition of discriminate (verb) that allows a neutral meaning
"Re the use of the word discriminatory - it is just the English language I am afraid:
discriminate
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- recognize a distinction; differentiate."
2. make an unjust or prejudicial distinction in the treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, sex, or age.
Discriminatory (adjective) is always used in the latter pejorative sense.
Does the EU discriminate between those who are its citizens and those who are not? Of course. Is that discriminatory? No.
If you've signed up as a Cityzen does the club discriminate between you and a non-Cityzen? Yes. If you as a Cityzen happen to be white and a non-Cityzen happens to be black, is the Cityzen scheme discriminatory? No.
I await the next Through the Looking Glass attempt.
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean- neither more nor less."
The pro-Brexit party returned (just) at the last election has had two years and hasn't delivered Brexit (yet). If an anti-Brexit party were returned now in an election, the policy would be enacted in an hour by the new PM revoking article 50.Chuka turncoat on sky saying a GE returning an anti brexit party would signal they are right to revoke.
Pity he didn’t feel the same about pro brexit parties being returned at the last GE.
Fucking laughable.
One is difficult - despite the claims it would be easy - but one is easy and delivers what we're told people want: just make it stop.
feedmpenzaandhewillscore
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Chuka turncoat on sky saying a GE returning an anti brexit party would signal they are right to revoke.
Pity he didn’t feel the same about pro brexit parties being returned at the last GE.
Fucking laughable.
I voted remain but it doesn’t sit right with me that we now have the Lib Dems being opportunist by flogging the idea they can stop the whole thing. Do they really believe they could just bin the whole process off, Smacks of a seat grab to reverse them being wiped out for jumping in to bed with the Tories.
Where is the Monster Raving Looney party these days? If ever there was a party to unite the electorate and deliver stable and proper government now is their time.
Blue Hefner
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Chuka turncoat on sky saying a GE returning an anti brexit party would signal they are right to revoke.
Pity he didn’t feel the same about pro brexit parties being returned at the last GE.
Fucking laughable.
The Lib Dem’s will say that knowing full well they won’t have to deal with the political consequences of revoking because they won’t win the election - but they are likely to be the junior partner in a coalition which as a condition they will ask for a 2nd ref, being the next best thing to revoking in their eyes
If that was to happen, Remain would win by a landslide which could then potentially put the Lib Dem’s in a very good position in 4-5yrs time
I’m not necessarily advocating that position, it is just my take on their strategy
Good explanation here
She says the Queen can sack him. "I would normally wait for a PM to resign and recommend a successor but as the present PM is in prison for contempt of court/Parliament, and the bastard lied to me, I'll take my advice from elsewhere."
George Hannah
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Well worth pointing out the dangers of labouring under misapprehensions and your last sentence contains two very salient ones. Our dysfunction is designed by the EU solely for their benefit. Their interest is to keep us inside the cartel as a paying member and lucrative controlled market not dump us out.Bettel, like the leaders of all other European countries, only gives a shit about the minds of his citizens. We seem to be under the assumption that no other European country has domestic politics or forget that opinion in their own domestic politics is far more important to leaders than opinion of citizens in another country. EU heads of state are not interested in ‘remain’ opinion in the U.K. They are only interested in making sure our dysfunction does not infect them hence their desire to dump us out via an orderly exit process ASAP.
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blueinsa
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The pro-Brexit party returned (just) at the last election has had two years and hasn't delivered Brexit (yet). If an anti-Brexit party were returned now in an election, the policy would be enacted in an hour by the new PM revoking article 50.
One is difficult - despite the claims it would be easy - but one is easy and delivers what we're told people want: just make it stop.
Amazingly easy when it suits.
My guess is the country wont put her or her party or those that support revoke in power.
gordondaviesmoustache
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Purging your contempt isn't a panacea, and usually only applies when you've shown contempt to the court to its face, when it is sitting e.g. called his Lordship a ****.Johnson would face a court order to comply with the Act (and be in contempt if he didn't, then possibly imprisoned until he purged his contempt).
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Len Rum
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LOL.Our dysfunction is designed by the EU solely for their benefit. Their interest is to keep us inside the cartel as a paying member and lucrative controlled market not dump us out.
Always the victim.
gordondaviesmoustache
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Not sure they'll be drinking Möet, mate :-)And on here we will take our places on the terraces and sling insults over the segregation, whilst those in the boxes dine on Foix Gras and Moet Chandon.
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