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[SWP's back]

It would have been possible. Those boats can strike anywhere in the Gulf. The tactic was one of a swarm attack. It's even irrelevant today, because Iran doesn't even need to use these small boats. They can hit anywhere in the Gulf with even more powerful cruise missiles.
You're clearly unwilling to accept the facts. I've wasted enough time as it is.

The boats were civilian, they weren’t attacked by Blue due to the original rules of engagement (have you even read your own links btw?). It wouldn’t have been possible in real life and the fleet wouldn’t have been so close to the shore.

Also the US wouldn’t need a single vessel in the Persian Gulf, check a map if you don’t believe me, let alone a fleet only several miles offshore.

As for cruise missiles, you may wish to read up on the US’s ship borne missile defence systems.

You have zero understanding of what the facts are but you’re right about wasting time, you’ve entirely wasted mine.

 

[SWP's back]

I don't get how anyone could be defending Iran or doesn't see the reasons why the US would get involved, how much involvement should they have is the question.
Saudi and UAE are considered key allies in the middle east, the rest are anti-western in comparison, then there's the oil issue.

I know Saudi are no angels but Iran seem by far the worse of the two. Their growing influence in the neighbouring countries to Saudi has sparked a lot of trouble in recent years as I understand it. Which if they are considered enemies is understandable(to have a reaction, not that their reactions have been correct), the USA wouldn't stand for it on their doorstep.

All in all it seems idiotic even if Iran factually would just walk into Saudi and take over because it fictionally happened in some simulations, to just let that happen. That would set relations in the middle east back decades for the west.

I’d much rather be on Iran’s side than the Saudi’s. And to call KSA ‘no angels’ is the understatement of the year.

There’s nothing Islamic State did to areas they held that KSA don’t do on their homelands in terms of laws and punishments.

The Saudis can fight there own battles and Iran probably wouldn’t be doing these attacks if the Saudis were not attempting genocide in Yemen. Why does one of the richest nations on earth need anyone else’s support. According to Trump, they’ve spent $400bn on US arms.

 

[SWP's back]

All in all it seems idiotic even if Iran factually would just walk into Saudi and take over because it fictionally happened in some simulations,

It didn’t.

 

[west didsblue]

This whole thing wouldn't be happening if the US hadn't walked away from the JCPOA and if Trump was a credible President that was not in Putin's pocket. Trump will blow a lot of hot air and may order the firing of a few missiles to make himself look tough, but they will be targeted where the Iranians will be expecting them and it won't change a thing. Iran know exactly what they can get away with and it's a lot more now than before Trump.

 

[Metalartin]

I’d much rather be on Iran’s side than the Saudi’s.

Care to explain why? From what I have read Iran are the worse of the two, state sponsored terrorism etc. Also they wouldn't want to be allies with the west, it's one of the reasons Saudi and Iran don't see eye to eye.

The Saudis can fight there own battles and Iran probably wouldn’t be doing these attacks if the Saudis were not attempting genocide in Yemen.

This I very much doubt, as I said they deliberately influenced people on the doorstep of their enemies for years. It could have been a strategy to get a reaction for all we know. We've seen how countries like the USA have acted to that in the past and that wasn't even on their doorstep.

 

[Metalartin]

It didn’t.

I misread what that was about, that was US vs Iran. Not really what I was talking about.

 

[SWP's back]

Care to explain why? From what I have read Iran are the worse of the two, state sponsored terrorism etc. Also they wouldn't want to be allies with the west, it's one of the reasons Saudi and Iran don't see eye to eye.

Saudi Arabia is a terrorist state.

It’s solely responsible for the growth and advancement of extremist Wahhabi Islam around the world. Exporting hate, intolerance and terror with it. Saudi Arabia has no redeeming features. To call them an ally is to ignore everything about them other than what they’re sat upon and where they spend their money. But I’m not blind to it nor am I a hypocrite.

Iran has done fuck all to the West especially when compared to what the West has done to it.

 

[SWP's back]

This I very much doubt, as I said they were deliberately influences people on the doorstep of their enemies we've seen how countries like the USA have acted to that in the past and that wasn't even on their doorstep.

Have you seen what the Saudis are doing to Yemen?

 

[Metalartin]

Have you seen what the Saudis are doing to Yemen?

Isn't that a Civil war?

 

[Metalartin]

Saudi Arabia is a terrorist state.

It’s solely responsible for the growth and advancement of extremist Wahhabi Islam around the world. Exporting hate, intolerance and terror with it. Saudi Arabia has no redeeming features. To call them an ally is to ignore everything about them other than what they’re sat upon and where they spend their money. But I’m not blind to it nor am I a hypocrite.

Iran has done fuck all to the West especially when compared to what the West has done to it.

Saudi a terrorist state? Iran have done fuck all?... Angels then, your friends? I think we'll leave it there.

I have read both sides of it as I said. You've full gone all in on one side of it quite clearly. I tend to know there will be propaganda on both sides.

Would be a mistake to let Iran take that much power if that's the way it's going. Can't believe anyone can't see why.

 

[SWP's back]

Isn't that a Civil war?

No

 

[SWP's back]

Iran have done fuck all... angels then. I think we'll leave it there.

Can leave it or put it wherever the hell you want pal. You continue to drink the propaganda and believe the Saudi’s are ally’s and just a bit naughty.

Unless you can list what Iran has done wrong, compared with Saudis. And built you strawmen elsewhere, I’ve not called Iran angels.

 

[purplenose]

Isn't that a Civil war?

To be fair it might be better described as a proxy war.

 

[SWP's back]

To be fair it might be better described as a proxy war.

Oh mate, he’s asking how people could possibly side with Iran over Saudi and doesn’t even have the first fucking clue about what’s going on in Yemen.

It amazes people how people with such ignorance are so happy to declare it others.

 

[Metalartin]

To be fair it might be better described as a proxy war.

Yes but then it goes much further than Iran and Saudi who are both directly involved. SWP doesn't have fucking clue Saudi wouldn't be bothered about Yemen if it weren't for fucking Iran. I'm swearing cos I'm a big man. ;)

As I've said I'm aware Saudi aren't angels, neither are Iran. "Iran have done fuck all"...what a joke.

 

[SWP's back]

Yes but then it goes much further than Iran and Saudi who are both directly involved. SWP doesn't have fucking clue Saudi wouldn't be bothered about Yemen if it weren't for fucking Iran. I'm swearing cos I'm a big man. ;)

You’d not heard of the conflict half an hour ago so excuse me if I don’t take your theories on it too seriously.

 

[Metalartin]

You’d not heard of the conflict half an hour ago so excuse me if I don’t take your theories on it too seriously.

I'd not heard of the conflict? What are you talking about?

 

[SWP's back]

I'd not heard of the conflict? What are you talking about?

Exactly what I said.

 

[Metalartin]

Exactly what I said.

Then you're wrong. I'll give you post from months back to demonstrate it.

 

[SWP's back]

Then you're a bullshitter. I'll give you post from months back to demonstrate it.

So why would you think it’s a civil war when KSA has 150,000 troops on the ground?

So you’d heard of it but just knew nothing about it?

Did you think Vietnam was a civil war?