Another new Brexit thread

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blueinsa said:
As was said and asked for, we needed the threat of no deal and the realisation that we would be leaving regardless, something we never had under May.

This needs to end for our sakes, yours and the EU’s and it’s time to get a deal sorted that allows us to part ways and everyone to claim victory and that they got what they wanted.

No deal hurts everyone and isn’t going to happen, hence a deal will get done.

All in my humble opinion of course.
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I’m not denying it @blueinsa and yes we all want a deal.
We may well be your biggest ally in the EU in that regard, but doesn’t mean we’ll accept all the compromising. Genuine negotiations and alternatives that your parliament would find acceptable would be a start.

I’m still wondering what the timescale you think will be for a credible deal proposal, not the ‘let us out and we’ll talk about it in the future’, proposal.

Whereas that does have it’s merits, it is so clearly more of the No Deal gambit that several of you find do masterful.
To us over here, trying to accommodate, it’s as untrustworthy as anything that’s ever come out of Westminster regarding our future.
That’s the problem. We’re odd like that when it comes to trust.
 
hgblue said:
Juncker states a no deal Brexit would be catastrophic for both sides, so not an empty threat after all eh?? Also states a Brexit deal is in the offing. If Boris agrees a deal and we leave on October 31st this place should be fun ;)
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Your enduring reference to everyone except Johnson by their surname gives away the embarrassingly big hard in you have for the lying ****.

We all have our foibles, I guess :-)
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Course they are.

I hear every day remainers campaigning for a deal by shouting "stop brexit".
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I love how some Remainers have started to post that they would be happy with a deal after 3 years of the crap they have given out.

Is there such a thing as 'faux reasonableness'?
 
mcfc1632 said:
I love how some Remainers have started to post that they would be happy with a deal after 3 years of the crap they have given out.

Is there such a thing as 'faux reasonableness'?
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Says the self-styled ring-master of faux everything methinks (ffs)
 
Gaudion M said:
You are clearly desperate for the remain cause to be beset by the same issues as leave. Remain is incredibly simple, it is the status quo, we get there without having to negotiate anything, we simply issue a letter and it's done.

We are where we are because leave involves a range of outcomes - none of which resemble the promises of the leave campaign. The campaign led leavers to believe and expect all the best bits of all of forms of leaving could be achieved in a simple deal. The right wing press has conditioned people to reject the reality of the difficulty in reaching any deal and the inevitable negatives - the result is no workable way forward. The clamour for No Deal is just a desperation to press on for emotive reasons ignoring the lies and misinformation that got us to this point.

Your two points above are just different reasons why you dislike remainers and the various ways there views might be expressed - they add nothing to the debate. You don't like remainers because they are dealing with reality and you want to ignore it.
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My two descriptions have gotten nothing to do with like or dislike of Remainers - where I live is a predominately Remain area and I have a lot of Remainer friends - not as many as I used to have because a few have been converted (worn down).

No my descriptions are based on what I come across online and observe on TV.

Anyway - how can you post that after the nonsense 2 'descriptions' of Leavers that you posted? By your logic - that is just your dislike of Leavers - double-standards?

Anyway - I can take a bit of comfort from your different style of posting from a year ago - you were sooooooo confident that the referendum would be overturned - totally dismissive

You suddenly come across as a bit anxious
 
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Mëtal Bikër said:
You also want to ignore the fact that there is a significant proportion of the population of this country that no longer wishes to continue to be a member of the EU, and that for them the "status quo" has changed, one to a position where the UK is no longer a member of the EU.

You wish to ignore this position because you disagree with it. Remaining in would not be the status quo and persisting is essentially one viewpoint forcing the other to adopt it's position, just as the no deal leavers tend to do.
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That is the crazy thing - there is no status quo option anymore - has not been for quite a while actually.

This genie is not going back into the bottle - even if there was a decision to revoke things will never go back to being as they were

People need to realise that and get over it
 
Vic said:
How so? Parliamentary approval for a deal was Parliament's demand.
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I don’t know how exactly he will and I appreciate how difficult it is for him but the more he talks about leaving on Oct 31st, the more nervous I get.
 
watching the Cameron Years on TV - dealing with the run up to the referendum. Something quite striking in all the coverage.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Correct, so the only option is to leave the EU, with a deal most preferably, yes?

Cast off your "remainer" tag, join the purpose of leave and start compromising to push forward a leave deal we can all agree upon. A Common Market 2.0., EFTA membership etc.
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This is sooo exciting - all these 'genuine' born again Leave supporters

Let's do a count - I can hopefully get some T-Shirts printed to hand out at the Etihad on Saturday

We could have a little comp to decide what we should have printed on the front and back;-)
 
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George Hannah said:
Tears stream down as he said goodbye to his staff after whistling his way back inside Downing St after the resignation speech - like so many before
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Nope. The fact that numerous interviews and reports were shown involving the protagonists and none of them mentioned N.Ireland and its border with the ROI !!! Which I find really strange as Leaver after Leaver have claimed it was raised ( and given the stumbling block it has become I kinda think they would have included it ) and they knew full well what they were voting for in the referendum. Somebody is clearly mistaken.
 
bluejon said:
Was it bollocks. It was biased towards trying to keep her party together, that was the aim of it, and it hasn't worked. You lot need to move on from seeing everything as a remainer plot. May's WA would have meant we would have left the EU, that is not biased towards remain.
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Well - given that I would vote Remain before I would vote for May's deal as is - I suspect that I am proven correct
 
bluethrunthru said:
Nope. The fact that numerous interviews and reports were shown involving the protagonists and none of them mentioned N.Ireland and its border with the ROI !!! Which I find really strange as Leaver after Leaver have claimed it was raised ( and given the stumbling block it has become I kinda think they would have included it ) and they knew full well what they were voting for in the referendum. Somebody is clearly mistaken.
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