Bernardo Silva tweet controversy

[ChicagoBlue]

The internet lives forever!

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Bit confused here. Is it acceptable to post it or not (whether it's on Twitter, WhatsApp or any other social media app)?

The difference between Twitter and Whatsapp is relevant though, because one's public and one isn't. One's a private joke between friends and the other is a public joke in front of an audience. And when telling a joke in public, then the wider social context is important. If instead of a Tweet, the joke had been sent on Whatsapp and then screen grabbed without Bernardo's knowledge, then I'd have far more sympathy for him, because whether the joke is offensive would be based entirely on the relationship that he and Mendy have.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

I don’t have the full details but heard the lad being interviewed. He said he had witnessed racism before but nothing like that. Also said he had been close to tears. That’s sufficient for me.

I was just going off the BBC News report in the link.

As I said, it must have been bad, but I guess “racial abuse” is now a simple blanket statement for “Believe us, it was racist and it was bad!” and I’m not good with that. I will judge for myself, because too many people have a hair trigger on faux outrage.

 

[Vialli98]

As a black man, I get this sort of joke often - "smile so we can see you" if we're in a light deficient space. I understand that friends can have an understanding amongst themselves and have risky banter in their inner circles, but once you post that nonsense publicly, people who look like Benjamin Mendy will take offence, and that is completely with their rights.

If someone from my office calls his black mate something racially insensitive, and I overhear it, I'm well within my rights to be offended by it, even if the black friend in question didn't mind.

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

Has anyone explained why it’s racist yet?

Steve Hughes can’t explain it either.

 

[lasereyes]

As a black man, I get this sort of joke often - "smile so we can see you" if we're in a light deficient space. I understand that friends can have an understanding amongst themselves and have risky banter in their inner circles, but once you post that nonsense publicly, people who look like Benjamin Mendy will take offence.

If someone from my office calls his black mate the N word, and I overhear it, I'm well within my rights to be offended by it, even the black friend in question didn't mind.

Agree with this. Bernardo should accept it was wrong (even if not ill-intended), take sensitivity training (no bad thing that) and move on.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Rubbish. There is absolutely no need to write what exactly they were doing. They and million other papers wrote that he was racially abused, nobody from either team that were there challenged that, even players from home team cnfronted their fans, so why the fuck they need to write what exactly happened? To give idea to some other **** to repeat it? Or it is about fake news and lamestream media, snowflakes and that stuff?

Didn’t say anything like you are implying.

I was going off the BBC report, which was what was linked. I STILL have no idea what was said or done, but, as I said, for the managers to contemplate removing the players it must have been bad.

I’m uncomfortable using other people’s definitions for subjective terms, that’s all. I know what terms like genocide mean, suicide mean, and the like. I have no idea what constitutes “racial abuse” to some of the people in this hypersensitive society in which we live, so I will choose to make my own decisions from the facts.....if that’s alright with you, of course?!

 

[citytill1die84]

Charlie Nicholas once said is it Fernandinho or Fernando? they both look the same to me.

Issued an apology and all was forgotten this is blown well over the top imho

 

[mat]

FA:

Bernie tweets something - Investigate!!!!


Dippers hack another clubs scouting system - Nothing to see here.

 

[Vialli98]

Agree with this. Bernardo should accept it was wrong (even if not ill-intended), take sensitivity training (no bad thing that) and move on.

Bernardo Silva has done nothing thus far in his life to suggest he meant it maliciously, so I agree, an acknowledgement of his error would be sufficient for us to put this one to bed and move on.

 

[Sheikh rattle and roll]

Bernardo Silva has done nothing thus far in his life to suggest he meant it maliciously, so I agree, an acknowledgement of his error would be sufficient for us to put this one to bed and move on.

Absolutely

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

As a black man, I get this sort of joke often - "smile so we can see you" if we're in a light deficient space. I understand that friends can have an understanding amongst themselves and have risky banter in their inner circles, but once you post that nonsense publicly, people who look like Benjamin Mendy will take offence, and that is completely with their rights.

If someone from my office calls his black mate something racially insensitive, and I overhear it, I'm well within my rights to be offended by it, even if the black friend in question didn't mind.

You see that. Irrespective of your race, religious persuasions, sexuality etc...that statement right there is a bigger ill on society than anything Bernardo Silva did. It’s bullshit, and pisses me off, but so effing what. Deal with it, just like I’ll have to deal with people like you who feel being offended is somehow a right.

 

[TINY]

As a black man, I get this sort of joke often - "smile so we can see you" if we're in a light deficient space. I understand that friends can have an understanding amongst themselves and have risky banter in their inner circles, but once you post that nonsense publicly, people who look like Benjamin Mendy will take offence, and that is completely with their rights.

If someone from my office calls his black mate something racially insensitive, and I overhear it, I'm well within my rights to be offended by it, even if the black friend in question didn't mind.

What happens when you get offended? Curiosity, because I don’t think I’ve ever been offended

 

[melons]

Nothing story
Move on

 

[Sir peace frog]

As a black man, I get this sort of joke often - "smile so we can see you" if we're in a light deficient space. I understand that friends can have an understanding amongst themselves and have risky banter in their inner circles, but once you post that nonsense publicly, people who look like Benjamin Mendy will take offence, and that is completely with their rights.

If someone from my office calls his black mate something racially insensitive, and I overhear it, I'm well within my rights to be offended by it, even if the black friend in question didn't mind.

Your not a black man,your a bald italian

 

[Vialli98]

You see that. Irrespective of your race, religious persuasions, sexuality etc...that statement right there is a bigger ill on society than anything Bernardo Silva did. It’s bullshit, and pisses me off, but so effing what. Deal with it, just like I’ll have to deal with people like you who feel being offended is somehow a right.

Being offended is just a human reaction. If you're asking me to be okay with people using racially abusive or insensitive language in my presence, just because you want to be able to racially abuse people in peace then I'm sorry disappoint you.

 

[Keith Moon]

I was merely making a point, not personally attacking you. ;-)

No problemas

 

[Vialli98]

What happens when you get offended? Curiosity, because I don’t think I’ve ever been offended

That depends on the situation. In the above scenario, I'd probably go directly to that person and let him know what I thought.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

No problemas

Is that the cultural appropriation of language? ;-)

See how ridiculous it has become?! In America, CORN ROWS on a white person is seen as “cultural appropriation,” as are many other things. I’m confused! Do I “stay in my lane” or do I “broaden my mind and my horizons” by accepting and embracing the multiculturalism that is America???

 

[BosnianBlue]

Didn’t say anything like you are implying.

I was going off the BBC report, which was what was linked. I STILL have no idea what was said or done, but, as I said, for the managers to contemplate removing the players it must have been bad.

I’m uncomfortable using other people’s definitions for subjective terms, that’s all. I know what terms like genocide mean, suicide mean, and the like. I have no idea what constitutes “racial abuse” to some of the people in this hypersensitive society in which we live, so I will choose to make my own decisions from the facts.....if that’s alright with you, of course?!

It could be right or not, I couldn't change it, but still think there is absolutely no need to explain you or anyone anything more than it was said. Everything that was reported is enough to understand that serious stuff happened, the rest is for court.