Prorogation - Judgment Day:10.30am Tuesday 24/9/19

blueinsa said:
I was hasty with my post as i know full well this parliament is never going to agree on a deal to leave, any deal, regardless of what it looked like because too many of them are no deal at all costs.

I should have said i expect them to sit in parliament and do fuck all other than to obstruct and disagree with each other.
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blueinsa said:
I was hasty with my post as i know full well this parliament is never going to agree on a deal to leave, any deal, regardless of what it looked like because too many of them are remain at all costs.

I should have said i expect them to sit in parliament and do fuck all other than to obstruct and disagree with each other.
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Maybe if the government had some proposals for a new deal they could talk about that.

Seeing as they haven't, I suspect they will get rid of this criminally useless minority government, sort out Brexit properly by putting the only agreed deal back to the people for ratification and then hold an election.
 
blueinsa said:
Of course it was.

Hope you wont suggest it wasn't all about remain for those that brought the case?
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It was about trying to ensure that no one could pull a fast one. He tried and nearly got away with it. How the fuck it got through in England raises issues over their competency. Our courts called it correctly. He was fucking at it.
 
Chris in London said:
Plainly it is part of our constitution. It governs when parliament is dissolved. You are right to say it can be circumvented by another act of parliament, but so can any other part of our constitution. If an Act of parliament abolishes the monarchy, we're a republic notwithstanding that we've been a constitutional monarchy since the seventeenth century.

That's what sovereignty means.
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Somebody needs to write this stuff down.
You need a written constitution.
 
west didsblue said:
Maybe if the government had some proposals for a new deal they could talk about that.
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There is no deal ever going to be passed.

SNP wont vote for anything, neither will the lib dems and neither will a few Tories, those now independent and a sizeable chunk of the Labour party.

Grieve this morning summed it up and he is one of the twats but he was correct, fuck all is changing and a GE anytime soon will bring back an equally split and divided parliament yet again.

Trouble with a second ref is it doesnt stand any chance as the result of the first has not been respected so im fucked if im going to respect the result of a second or third or fourth or however many we have until remain wins and then people try telling us its the will of the people and how its brought us all back together and its the end of it.

Only way this ends is by leaving and then if its shit, rejoining.

Anything else will rip our democracy apart like nothing else has or ever will imo.
 
Gaudion M said:
Fully agree. If you listened to the judgement or if you go back and read it is very clear that the reasoning given to the queen and reasoning expressed in private were very different and the motivation for the difference were all considered connected issues and part of an unlawful act.
It sounded and reads as a judgement in a treason case.
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The Supremes pointed out that they were not interested in what reasons the Big 4 gave to the Queen if any or their motives. They judged the simple advice to be unlawful in its effect as preventing the constitutional functioning of Parliament for 5 weeks without any reasonable grounds.
A gross abuse if power but not necessarily implying BoJo lied to or misled the Queen. Nevertheless he should resign as the leader of the pack that acted unlawfully.
 
Mike D said: ↑
Very funny and @worlseyweb what are you going to tell us next it's okay for Johnson to break the law because he was doing it to honour the result of a non binding referendum.

worsleyweb said:
You think it is acceptable that mps are refusing to act in the interests of the majority who voted in the largest referendum vote ever in this county?

I don’t find that funny in anyway.
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What today's ruling seems to indicate is that in Britain it's OK to lie to the people, but not to the Queen.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
Mike D said: ↑
Very funny and @worlseyweb what are you going to tell us next it's okay for Johnson to break the law because he was doing it to honour the result of a non binding referendum.



What today's ruling seems to indicate is that in Britain it's OK to lie to the people, but not to the Queen.
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The people get very funny about any disrespect shown to the Queen.

I think it’s disgraceful he’s used our head of state as a political pawn in his ILLEGAL and UNDEMOCRATIC game though, to be fair.

It’s genuinely the tactics Hitler used in the early 1930’s with Hindenburg.
 
Magicpole said:
It was about trying to ensure that no one could pull a fast one. He tried and nearly got away with it. How the fuck it got through in England raises issues over their competency. Our courts called it correctly. He was fucking at it.
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Which one of your courts? The one that said it was okay or the one that said it wasn't?
 
blueinsa said:
Trouble with a second ref is it doesnt stand any chance as the result of the first has not been respected so im fucked if im going to respect the result of a second or third or fourth or however many we have until remain wins and then people try telling us its the will of the people and how its brought us all back together and its the end of it.
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What are you going to do?
Write a strongly worded letter, get really angry on the internet, never vote again or vote for a fascist party led by a frog faced loon?
 
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