Doesn't work like that .... the day of the GE is the gift of the PM ... If a vote for a GE gets passed ...all Johnson has to do is call the election for November. Parliament shuts down and will be unable to act (apply for an extension) hence we end up with the Tory wet dream of a hard Brexit. This is why Labour won't agree to it until we are sure a no deal is off the table / Johnson puts a new deal on the table / Article 50 is revoked or an extension is applied for.
It was an omission in the Fixed Term Parliaments Act. A PM could lose the vote of no confidence but still remain as PM and then be able to delay fixing the date of the election. I can see an amendment next week that gives the timing to Parliament.Doesn't work like that .... the day of the GE is the gift of the PM ... If a vote for a GE gets passed ...all Johnson has to do is call the election for November. Parliament shuts down and will be unable to act (apply for an extension) hence we end up with the Tory wet dream of a hard Brexit. This is why Labour won't agree to it until we are sure a no deal is off the table / Johnson puts a new deal on the table / Article 50 is revoked or an extension is applied for.
Correct it johnson went to brussels this morning asked for an extention and came back by afternoon with it, he could have a GE election vote this evening and it would pass.
He is stopping the GE happening not the opposition benches.
Only a blind man or a fool cannot see this
That’s a great post.NAH, just a glib phrase with not a trace of evidence, not enough horrible bastards to ever deserve the last thirty years....posters moaning about the lack of "compromise" have not grasped the impossibility of a compromise, what the brexit/far right want is absolute anathema to those who believe that the EU is the only safe option for the VAST majority of UK citizens. The latest naked power-grab by the government, to dismiss parliament as nothing more than an irrelevance, to be treated as a noisy child and sent to the naughty step, would have been unthinkable, even in the darkest days of the thatcher slash and burn years. The fanatical insistence that the ref. was "democratic" is an impenetrable barrier to a any form of compromise, the constant "leave means leave" is another. The carefully scripted threat of "no deal", designed to make a deal seem more attractive; along with "people just want it over with", belong with the rest of the lies that the media are responsible for. Brexits know that this is the last-chance saloon, that corbyn is their greatest asset, never to be repeated, that trying to force a GE is their only straw, desperation is palpable. A cornered rat is more dangerous than one with a bolt-hole, johnson and his billionaire backers are in a corner, and more vicious than any rat. Brace...Brace...Brace...
The democratic pyramid is not particularly democratic though is it. As many would point out we once again have an unelected Prime minister for starters.
I thought it was dripping with the usual anti-Tory clichés to be honest. The most cynically ludicrous being this oft-repeated slur that there's some evil billionaires in the background seeking to damage the UK economy for some kind of convoluted gain. It really is utter nonsense.That’s a great post.
Congratulations you're obviously as daft as they are then. Some of the policies are spectacularly stupid.Ive read the Labour manifesto .... and whilst Im not keen on Corbyn there's not one policy out of over 100 that I would disagree with. Im voting based on policies not personalities.
I'm not sure we knew how much power the PM didn't have but for the Supreme Court. But for the enemies of the people the PM could deprive citizens of their rights and could cancel Parliament.Perhaps you've forgotten that we don't elect Prime Ministers. If we elected Presidents, you'd have a point. We don't.
The PM's power is in nearly all cases subject to Parliamentary approval by MPs who have all been elected.
Singapore, you say...I've always said a couple of things:
1. That what made me come down on the side of Remain was that I did not believe the pain of getting out, was worth it for the possible upsides which might or might not materialise.
2. They if we were to leave, then a right wing Tory government with yes, Singapore like policies, would be the only way we could end up benefitting. And that leaving under anything like a socialist Labour government, would be an absolute fucking disaster with Labour implementing a pretty much PERFECT set of policies if fucking up our economy was your prime objective: Increase corporation tax, increase employment protections and limit flexibility, interfere with company structures and pay, make strikes more likely, worry investors about punitive measures down the line, etc. In short, discouraging investment in the UK, rather than encouraging it.
My concern was that although Labour would very likely not win a forthcoming GE, nevertheless they have dragged the political centre of gravity to the left, and that there was little prospect of the sort of Tory government needed to deregulate and reduce taxes to the extent necessary.
So I could see no prospect of the gains being realised and yet cast iron certainty of the pain of leaving.
Congratulations you're obviously as daft as they are then. Some of the policies are spectacularly stupid.
Yes there's some terrible stats in there, like the $20,000 tax free personal allowance and the 5% youth unemployment rate. (Compared to 30% plus across many EU countries).
Sure, only fascists send their kids to private schools. Hitler's lad was at Eton I believe.Only to fascists.
Well you must be a fool , they have the chance of a vote twice and the opposition voted against it .
The election could have been done and your chums labour in and they could have revoked before 31/10 or asked for an extension themselves
Sure, only fascists send their kids to private schools. Hitler's lad was at Eton I believe.
Now now Chippy. Everyone knows that if one disagrees with putting Corporation Tax up from 19% to 26% then that makes them a fascist!
Let alone wanting to make <queue the scary music> *profit*. The evil fascist bastards.
Full employment with no minimum wage - slavery.Yes there's some terrible stats in there, like the $20,000 tax free personal allowance and the 5% youth unemployment rate. (Compared to 30% plus across many EU countries).
I was particularly worried about no. 10 on the list, that they have plans to help to the poorest Singaporeans. What is THAT all about.
When you look at the Labour policies, you do genuinely wonder whether some of them are all well-intentioned but non-sensical. Or whether they are actually motivated by fucking over "the rich", and have nothing to do with seeking improvement.Fixed that for you mate ;)
I just found it rather amusing that on the cherry-picked list of terrible aspects of life in Singapore, it contained quite a few things which are actually a lot better than what we see across the EU. And that was the "terrible" list.Full employment with no minimum wage - slavery.
If it's that good, why does anyone need help?