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To back your your eulogy of all things tory, could you point me to a single thing they have achieved that was "intended" to benefit the entire population and not just a small but powerful section at the expense of the remainder?
The "corrupt billionaire" tag is nothing more than a list of corrupt billionaires, "slur" is inaccurate. Take your pick, murdoch, rothermere, barclay bros' desmond trump putin , pretty strong midfield , everyone of them proven liars ( on many occasions, but in tory-land they aren't really liars, just "business men" where "truth" and white-collar crime is "the real world", exploitation is the m.o. and anyone who disagrees is a bleedin' heart socialist who never did a day's work in their lives #dailyhatemail, ffs. At it's very core the tory party is "rule by the rich, for the rich" the difference between the pre-thatcher party and the post-thatcher gang is the iron grip that now exists on the media by the far-right Corrupt billionaires, where accountability no longer exists; exemplified by their long-standing crusade on Europe, lie upon blatant lie, unchallenged criminal behaviour spun shamelessly to con the public, the use of racially motivated banner headlines, the poisonous diatribes seeking to vilify anyone that disagrees with their ruthless attacks on the less well-off as "shysters, parasites and spongers living in palaces paid for by "hard-working decent and honest strivers"#dailyhatemail. Take a bow, living proof of how successful that campaign has been, how levels of smug bullshit is reaching new heights.
Privatisation, just another name for stealing from the public, thanks to "tame watch-dogs" that do everything to protect share-holders and nothing to protect consumers, bastards.
An analogy that sums up the situation; if you imagine the public as the "bait-ball" as depicted on The Blue Planet, ravaged by the predators from above, below and all sides, except the predators all have two legs and make sharks look like kittens, make whales look like minnows, and they all worship at the church of unfettered capitalism,
#Corruptionrules,greedisgood,fuckthosewhochoosetobepoor,fuckparliamentfuckbusiness. Not catchy,and but then who needs catchy in a world of lying and corrupt billionaire despot and the bedroom TAX.....and retiring at seventy five with no NHS, no state schools and nowhere to live....at least the obesity epidemic will be curtailed but that is just an unintended consequence and not as claimed by some rwnj on here as deliberate.
Honestly I can't be arsed responding to all of that - it would take hours. There may be an atom of truth buried in there somewhere if I looked hard enough, but in the main, it's utter, utter bollocks. I find it quite astonishing that so many of you don't have so much as a chip on your shoulders as and entire fucking chip shop, no, a potato farm.
 
Honestly I can't be arsed responding to all of that - it would take hours. There may be an atom of truth buried in there somewhere if I looked hard enough, but in the main, it's utter, utter bollocks. I find it quite astonishing that so many of you don't have so much as a chip on your shoulders as and entire fucking chip shop, no, a potato farm.

Reality check time.

There is a fag paper between parties and politicians in so much regardless of who is in power, everyone will be taxed heavily and pay through the nose for almost everything.

Red or Blue, income tax, VAT, Council tax, inheritance tax, corporation tax, business rates etc etc, you name it will remain and literally fuck all will change for 99.99% of us in our daily lives.

Its one big con and stitch up job and why anyone thinks or feels anything differently I've no idea?
 
I disagree with every word above. Every single word. You could not have written a paragraph that was more wrong had you spent hours crafting it. It is a masterpiece of wrong.
Why thank you sir!
A masterpiece you say!
It seems some others appreciated it as well. Your appreciation of someone that has been found guilty of unlawful behaviour and misleading the monarch, trying to set the populace against parliament and the legal establishment and trying to find any loophole to implement a no deal Brexit that no one voted for needs little comment from me.
 
Foster (Telegraph) giving the low down from Brussels. EU seeing Johnson trash all hope of compromise in Westminster and not impressed with the latest ‘proposals’ from the U.K. Also concern at how to handle a major European nation losing its mind. Current mood: Grim.

 
Foster (Telegraph) giving the low down from Brussels. EU seeing Johnson trash all hope of compromise in Westminster and not impressed with the latest ‘proposals’ from the U.K. Also concern at how to handle a major European nation losing its mind. Current mood: Grim.



Boris "Trumpson"?

Impartial then I take it lol

Thanks for the low down Peter.
 
He's another one whose bought into this "discount for Private Schools" crap. I thought Bob had dreamt up his own world of resentment until a day or so ago, I realise he's got it out of the current Corbyn Book of Resentment. I see ifwecouldjust has been reading and memorising the same tripe.

They want schools taxed as businesses, in order to punish them, to depress them. Schools are not businesses in the normal sense - any idiot can see that. They are not "selling" anything, merely educating our children.

The other lie is that not taxing something is "a gift". If I have £100, and normally £20 would be taken off me, leaving me with my £100 is not "giving" me £20.

Actually I got it from the Gove/Hammond book of ‘How Do We Wean Private Schools Off Addiction To The Taxpayers Tit’. It’s a cracking read. All true Conservatives that work in the private sector will be enraged at the special treatment these private businesses receive.
 
Actually I got it from the Gove/Hammond book of ‘How Do We Wean Private Schools Off Addiction To The Taxpayers Tit’. It’s a cracking read. All true Conservatives that work in the private sector will be enraged at the special treatment these private businesses receive.

How are they on the taxpayers tit?

Do they not pay tax that say....Castle Douglas High School has to pay?
 
level playing field with who and what?

Is a school providing education and reinvesting income back into facilities, education and grants/bursaries for disadvantaged pupils the same as a steel works or the local bakery?

Is one harming the other?

What level playing field do you want?

He's another one whose bought into this "discount for Private Schools" crap. I thought Bob had dreamt up his own world of resentment until a day or so ago, I realise he's got it out of the current Corbyn Book of Resentment. I see ifwecouldjust has been reading and memorising the same tripe.

They want schools taxed as businesses, in order to punish them, to depress them. Schools are not businesses in the normal sense - any idiot can see that. They are not "selling" anything, merely educating our children.

The other lie is that not taxing something is "a gift". If I have £100, and normally £20 would be taken off me, leaving me with my £100 is not "giving" me £20.


Then why don't we allow State Schools a discount on Council Tax and let's do it for NHS hospitals whilst we're at it. That'll help them manage their budgets better
 
Would most here be against staying in the EEA as a deal similar to Norway?
I know this will never happen but it interests me as it would be a solution to a lot of problems and would be an exit from the European Union
 
The real issue is they sadly see it as a way of stopping Conservative PM's is so much Eton etc is seen as a breeding ground so get rid of the breeding ground and we can get rid of our enemy.

Its actually sinister as well as deluded as a policy.
It is, you're right.

It's probably undesirable to have such a high proportion of government ministers with private school - especially Eton - backgrounds. But something the bitters don't seem to realise it that it is not by design that this is the case. That driven, successful and rich parents with the means to send their kids to Eton do actually end up producing a high proportion of driven, rich and successful kids. Some of my mates have had kids in private schools and you know what they say was the greatest benefit? It's actually not the education per se, it's the confidence it gives them. To have confidence in their beliefs and confidence to stand up in a room and be heard. That's why private schools produce so many leaders and senior execs in industry.

And when a school has a track record of providing confident, driven, motivated and clever kids, Oxford and Cambridge are more likely to accept their recommendations than those from some random underperforming state school. Ditto when these driven and aspirational individuals graduate from Oxford, they are more likely to get the job in politics.

It's far from ideal, but you can see how it comes about.

All the emphasis should be on how do we make our state schools better. But in the absence of a fix for that, smashing the private schools will have to do. Politics of bitterness, resentment and envy.
 
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