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walking down oxford road half an hour or so ago, some complete bellend pissed out of his face giving it "alexander boris de pfeffel johnson is going to send every one of you fuckers back home soon" to all the foreign students walking past. just the kind of welcoming attitude that brexit has produced in this country.


They were always here ..... 17.4 million of them .... its just that the behaviour of MPs and Farage plus the failure to reign them in has given them a voice ..... except when they are asked to outline the benefit of Brexit or what they hope to achieve by a hard Brexit ....... then its radio silence.
 
They were always here ..... 17.4 million of them .... its just that the behaviour of MPs and Farage plus the failure to reign them in has given them a voice ..... except when they are asked to outline the benefit of Brexit or what they hope to achieve by a hard Brexit ....... then its radio silence.
A sad fucking twat getting pissed and thinking he's hard by shouting abuse at students who are never going to give it back, he was a right state.
 
Dave can fight his own battles, but he didn't say we are a nation of peevish idiots, he said that's increasingly how we are being viewed outside these shores, and I tell you what George, he's absolutely right. Read how the foreign press is reporting this abomination, and you'll see what I mean.
Trust me he does think of all 17.4 million leave voters in precisely those terms. What is happening is correctly seen internationally as a fiasco and a massive political failure - leading to a choice between two extremist led main parties. But let's not try to blame this mess on those who voted to leave the EU like Dismal.
 
Trust me he does think of all 17.4 million leave voters in precisely those terms. What is happening is correctly seen internationally as a fiasco and a massive political failure - leading to a choice between two extremist led main parties. But let's not try to blame this mess just on those who voted to leave the EU like Dismal.
Very funny.

I don't blame those who voted for this shitstorm. I blame those who told them it would all be sunshine and roses.
 
Both, actually. I loved it when Andy Murray won Wimbledon, I genuinely viewed that as a British win. I'm no fan of curling but was pleased as punch when a team selected almost exclusively from the western isles (IIRC) won the gold at the winter Olympics. I take as much pleasure when Rory McIlroy wins at golf (though that's not such a common occurrence these days) as when Tommy Fleetwood does. So many of the great achievements of the Victorian age were, as you know, achieved by scots especially in fields like engineering and medicine, and when I think about them I don't shrug and think 'Scottish, nothing to do with me', I think 'this is what our country has achieved, and it's fucking brilliant.' I think the Bell Rock lighthouse and the Bristol suspension bridge are engineering miracles alike, and I don't distinguish between them on the grounds one was designed by an Englishman, the other by a scot.

In similar vein, I'm always hugely proud of great feats achieved by Mancunians, but that doesn't stop me being proud of great feats achieved by English men and women from Sheffield or Bristol or Plymouth, or of Britons from Cardiff or Belfast or Edinburgh.

As to the current situation, I think I will restrict myself to saying that however you define your nationality, this is not our nation's finest hour.
Its a nice post and reflects my feelings of pride very closely. I have always believed that the Union was so much more than the sum of the four countries. I pray to god we can return to one nation politics at some point in the not too distant future and before the Union is ripped apart.
 
You must be joking ............ you want another 5 years of this?

Nope I'm the most committed remainer on here.

I will be voting tactically to stop brexit (and stop BoJo and Farage) but I may have 3 remain choices as my local Labour MP defected to Change UK and has not gone on to join the Lib Dems.

The history of the seat is fairly safe Labour over 60% in 2017, but it has been built up over the years. So subject to what my current MP does I could vote for anyone from Change UK - Lib Dems - or very reluctantly for Labour. (I have said I would never vote for Labour under Corbyn but stopping brexit is far more important than my intense dislike for Corbyn.
 
Who the fuck are this Leave.eu lot anyway? They just look like another Britain First-esque mob (I'm more of a Britain Furst king of guy by the way) to me who try and come across as something approaching legit by sharing a load of stuff on social media that then gets passed around and some end up swallowing it. In fact, seeing stuff like that they're even less subtle than BF at times. Unless there are some well-known people behind them, I'm not sure why they're getting any credit. They've got less than 300,000 followers ffs!
Leave.eu was the racist wing of the Leave campaign, backed by Arron Banks and Nigel Farage. I think Banks is still financing it but not sure about Farage - I hope LBC bosses will ask him what he thinks of that tweet, but as he used the Nazi propaganda image during the campaign, I'm not sure he'd disown it. He'd rather appear on the platform of the real Nazis in Germany now.
 
Very funny.

I don't blame those who voted for this shitstorm. I blame those who told them it would all be sunshine and roses.
Does that include those who created the conditions? Brexit couldn't have been better designed to find the fault lines in our politics and to expose the perceptions of communities as neglected and left behind, remote from those making decisions about their lives and government continually failing to address their problems. Not funny at all.
 
Trust me he does think of all 17.4 million leave voters in precisely those terms. What is happening is correctly seen internationally as a fiasco and a massive political failure - leading to a choice between two extremist led main parties. But let's not try to blame this mess on those who voted to leave the EU like Dismal.
I'm in regular contact with a large number of people overseas and the consensus is simple, brexit is fucking stupid. Brexit voters are considered abroad in the same bracket as Trump voters in the US. Corbyn or Labour aren't seen as extremist abroad because no fucker knows who they are.
 
Leave.eu was the racist wing of the Leave campaign, backed by Arron Banks and Nigel Farage. I think Banks is still financing it but not sure about Farage - I hope LBC bosses will ask him what he thinks of that tweet, but as he used the Nazi propaganda image during the campaign, I'm not sure he'd disown it. He'd rather appear on the platform of the real Nazis in Germany now.

Ok, thanks. I’ve seen their moniker every now and then but never really took any notice of them.
 
Remainers hate england, thats a brexit banner. There are two englands with an everwidening gap.. wealth and priviledge power and the media, represented by the tories,, versus the rest, so as a remai
Nope I'm the most committed remainer on here.

I will be voting tactically to stop brexit (and stop BoJo and Farage) but I may have 3 remain choices as my local Labour MP defected to Change UK and has not gone on to join the Lib Dems.

The history of the seat is fairly safe Labour over 60% in 2017, but it has been built up over the years. So subject to what my current MP does I could vote for anyone from Change UK - Lib Dems - or very reluctantly for Labour. (I have said I would never vote for Labour under Corbyn but stopping brexit is far more important than my intense dislike for Corbyn.
Stopping brexit is cucial closely followed by keeping the back stop and the GFA.
For the sake of three quarters of the population, the england of the people, not the tory tyrants and their dreams of a thatcher utopia.
 
Does that include those who created the conditions? Brexit couldn't have been better designed to find the fault lines in our politics and to expose the perceptions of communities as neglected and left behind, remote from those making decisions about their lives and government continually failing to address their problems. Not funny at all.

I can't bring myself to blame American banks over exposing themselves in the sub-prime market as responsible for Brexit, no, yet austerity operated like a crowbar in those fault lines and led directly to the voters being asked one question in 2016 and answering another.

What I can blame are the smug fools who thought exposing the country to this fucking abomination was a neat way of stifling dissent within the conservative party.

One thing I can say is that I am now a firm advocate of proportional representation. To feel that your vote counts directly must be something of an antidote to the feelings of alienation that FPTP plainly produces, where 450 constituencies never change hands and the government for the next 5 years is chosen by 500,000 people spread across 100 marginal constituencies.
 
I'm in regular contact with a large number of people overseas and the consensus is simple, brexit is fucking stupid. Brexit voters are considered abroad in the same bracket as Trump voters in the US. Corbyn or Labour aren't seen as extremist abroad because no fucker knows who they are.

I can vouch with this - I work for a US firm and regularly discuss the similarity between the Trump vote and the brexit vote. We tend to agree they are not the brightest and both are massively damaging our countries.
 
Given those liberal, tolerant, inclusive and progressive views it's a pity you'd have 17.4 million leave voters drowned in your endless sea of visceral contempt. As for the Dismal Echo world barometer confirming we are a nation of 'peevish, deluded, small minded idiots' - give yourself a tap.

You make Alf Garnett look liberal, tolerant, inclusive and progressive, Grandad.
 
Nope I'm the most committed remainer on here.

I will be voting tactically to stop brexit (and stop BoJo and Farage) but I may have 3 remain choices as my local Labour MP defected to Change UK and has not gone on to join the Lib Dems.

The history of the seat is fairly safe Labour over 60% in 2017, but it has been built up over the years. So subject to what my current MP does I could vote for anyone from Change UK - Lib Dems - or very reluctantly for Labour. (I have said I would never vote for Labour under Corbyn but stopping brexit is far more important than my intense dislike for Corbyn.
The more likely a Tory GE victory under the Blond Liar, the less likely Corbyn could get an overall majority, so the more willing the anti-Corbyn Labour voters would be to vote Labour. If your constituency is Stockport, she could split her vote with the official Labour candidate and either could still win. I can't see the LibDems making up enough ground to be the main go-to party for Remain voters.

I think it's calculations like this in each constituency (and losing 13 seats in Scotland) that mean Tory HQ don't think they can get an overall majority.

Has no-one suggested a GE and a No Deal v Remain referendum on the same day?
 
Never underestimate how many neither understand or care.
I know a good few of them 'don't know why you bother mate they're all the same in it for themselves' types. They couldn't wait to get the polling stations in 2016 on the principle that they were 'taking back control' to give to the set of cunts they didn't trust in the first place !
 
I know plenty of people who say this sorr of stuff. Leavers everyone of them. But as has said before not all Leavers would come out with such comments.
Correct not all leavers believe in this shite but a huge amount do , they have fuck all to cling onto now apart from this kind of shite . As I asked earlier, is the HMRC report about £15 billion extra cost annually to business on administration for exports and imports part of project fear ? Obviously it doesn’t get a response because they know deep down that they have fallen for the lies . It’s truly pitiful how this whole scenario has unfolded . The last desperate resort will now be a campaign of jingoistic language to make the EU and foreigners the enemy and the frightening thing is that it will succeed .
 
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