Advocating something that can never happen is dishonest and dangerous. BoJo would never agree to a second referendum, it could only happen if he was displaced by a remainer coalition. They would have to preside over several months of chaotic paraysis until his incendiary choice of Remain or No Deal could be offered via an already wholly discredited mechanism by wholly discredited proponents.Again though, that wasn’t the point he was making. He said the order that he would want it to happen but fully acknowledged that none of it would. I completely agree with him too - it’s conflating two separate issues. A referendum to sort out Brexit (in the absence of parliament being able to do it, which is the only time personally I’d ever advocate a referendum) and an election to sort out parliament.
Advocating something that can never happen is dishonest and dangerous. BoJo would never agree to a second referendum, it could only happen if he was displaced by a remainer coalition. They would have to preside over several months of chaotic paraysis until his incendiary choice of Remain or No Deal could be offered via an already wholly discredited mechanism by wholly discredited proponents.
It's just following its own rules to achieve its objectives, they were designed to accomodate them,If the EU wanted to stop brexit why did they come to the W.A with may? Surely if they wanted to thwart it they wouldn't agree to anything?
So - you are saying that you can accept that there will be a lot of strife but so long as you get your way on the Brexit outcome you will go with that.Ok mate. Thanks. I can understand that. The country is so completely riven that stay or leave there is going to be a great deal of damage. It just depends which way any individual thinks will deliver most badness.
So the EU has redlines in it's negotiations like the UK does?It's just following its own rules to achieve its objectives, they were designed to accomodate them,
This is dull.
Same thing over and over and over again.
Lets do....do you have 100% proof of the doomsday scenario you tell us will happen?
Here is a fact. leave won, we leave and posts like your deserve nothing more than that i am sorry but your line of questioning isn't clever, or new its boring as fuck and has been done to death and frankly pointless as the ref has been and gone.
"He doesnt have to prove anything to you or provide any evidence is the answer".
*rant over*
A year is a long time in politics. What Blair is proposing now, given what has happened since 2016, is pure desperation. He seems out of touch with the current grim political realities.I agree with your first sentence to an extent, although I’d argue he’s at least not in a position of power anymore, there’s plenty doing similar that still are ;)
Anything that happens with Brexit is incendiary in some way to someone. That is just his personal opinion of what he would do, something he’s perfectly entitled to voice. I’d have done similar but a year ago.
A year is a long time in politics. What Blair is proposing now, given what has happened since 2016, is pure desperation. He seems out of touch with the current grim political realities.
Do you have any thing concrete to back that up? Any way of measuring what 'do well' actually means and what is the time frame in which this can be achieved and do you believe that some people will pay a price in the meantime?
So rumours that the pathway to a deal involves changing the sequencing and agreeing a wide ranging FTA, so removing the need for a backstop. Who’d have thought it eh?
It's simple economics. We're a strong self sustaining economy. There is nothing concrete with either stay or leave, otherwise there would be no such thing as a stock market.
It's a fine line for me for the benefits of free trade we make heavy contributions and regulatory alignment, but we certainly don't rely on the EU to make our economy work. I can understand why we have a trade deficit with them.
My vote was driven towards remain just because I think that's easier than leaving. What was hard to accept is that the current deal we have will, over time, be detracted down until we are closer and closer to the EU. All we want is trade - yet that's not all the EU want from us as a price. Also concerning is the deteriorating economic situation is several EU economies, if we're too close we may be faced with a decision to bail out or crash out in the future.
Either way I believe we will be fine, have faith in your nation and our ability to stand up and be counted on the global stage. We have a lot of strengths but we seem to focus on anything negative at the moment.
I wouldn't get too giddy yet.
https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit-countdown/2019/1010/1082249-varadkar-johnson/?utm_source=xtremepush&utm_medium=webpush&utm_campaign=Leo+Varadkar+and+Boris+Johnson+say+they+can+‘see+a+pathway+to+a+possible+deal’+following+Brexit+talks+(xtremepush+#14166054)&utm_term=notification+#202480923_333541991&utm_content=A
The comments section on twitter are interesting.
Exactly, unfortunately May was a gullible fool to agree to the sequencing.Exactly as it should have been the day after we voted to leave but May allowed the EU to dictate otherwise.
Another made up comment by me.Ahh just 12 hours more from a poster who says 5 mins delay at one of our ports will be a disaster.
Look if they want no deal then they can by all means do the long sea crossings but i dont think they will and that a deal will be agreed.
Another made up comment by me.
They will re-plan and use ports in France to minimise any problems. It’s NI that gets totally screwed. ROI will adapt and move on.
Exactly as it should have been the day after we voted to leave but May allowed the EU to dictate otherwise.
This issue is overplayed - no reason why a WA with full SM access and a CU could not be agreed. It wasn't because the Tories no they would never get out of it. They wanted out quickly without resolving the problems.