Another new Brexit thread

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blueinsa said:
Ahhh that question again.

Think I've answered this more times than I've had....well you know the rest.

Took no notice of either campaign to be honest and went with a long time held view that the EU is an undemocratic club, ran for the benefit of the Germans and French primarily with smaller nations literally told to do as they are told or the money stops and one with an ever increasing federalist dream that started with the Euro and will end only when nation states are no longer and the United states of Europe has been created.

I dont believe it has a long term future, i dont believe in it politically and i dont want to be a part of it.

Thats why I voted to leave.
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Really good summary - gets to the heart of why so many of us had decided to vote Leave

The EU project is destined to fail and that should be clear IMO to anyone willing to analyse with objectivity.

Importantly, it is clear to the key EU figures and that is why we saw the strategies that have been developed in recent years. Also, just look to Marcon for his solution - more and accelerated Europe - let's get the nations so utterly lashed together that they can never consider leaving and 'have to find a way to make things work'.

If we do manage to break free and establish an acceptable TA then in years to come we will look back and realise just how fortunate we were - not many years from now and the possibility would have been lost.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Well in England's case, as they've shown, they can do whatever they want as they dominate the UK and the other nation's opinions simply don't matter. The Welsh are boot lickers so they'll just follow wherever you lot go.
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The Welsh are boot lickers.

Bad day for you yesterday I can tell.

Shame I would have thought the hope of a deal and the end of brexit would be welcomed by all but it's clear some remainers just can't stomach that thought.

Actually scratch that. Your issue mate is your dream of a United Ireland, all brought about via the backdoor and the backstop has slipped yet again.

That's why you're upset.
 
hilts said:
It was tongue in cheek, if you believe every person in the U.K. has equal status and equal right to be pissed off please tell me how you can possibly get out of this without some people from BelfastDundee,Darlington and Denbigh being pissed off. Your posts come across as being anti English in nature sometimes. As a Mancunian it baffles me as I have more in common with Scots and Irish than the affluent south. The welsh I’m a bit meh about:-)
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I think you mean Dublin, Dundee, Humberside. No panic
 
aguero93:20 said:
Literally, England can choose to do whatever they want. They make up around 75% to 80% of the voting weight of the UK. Wales? They don't have the weight of a prominent nationalist movement so they'll get a pat on the head and move on. Don't mistake an honest answer for sarcasm. Scotland and NI are the ones being dragged into something against their will by the weight of the English vote and the lack of failsafes such as a veto.
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Compared to your voting weight in the EU?

Now they do pat you on the head.
 
hilts said:
It was tongue in cheek, if you believe every person in the U.K. has equal status and equal right to be pissed off please tell me how you can possibly get out of this without some people from BelfastDundee,Darlington and Denbigh being pissed off. Your posts come across as being anti English in nature sometimes. As a Mancunian it baffles me as I have more in common with Scots and Irish than the affluent south. The welsh I’m a bit meh about:-)
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Anti English sometimes?
 
I wonder just how long we will be using the oft repeated word 'Remainer?'
Two weeks or so?
Another 6-12 months?
Years?
Place your bets:)
 
Coatigan said:
Yep, nothing kills off nationalism like the sense of depriving people of their will, access to security and growth, and then letting them watch while someone else gets what they are looking for. Yippp, that wil nip it right in the bud!
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Ancient Citizen said:
I wonder just how long we will be using the oft repeated word 'Remainer?'
Two weeks or so?
Another 6-12 months?
Years?
Place your bets:)
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Until my "Don't blame me I was a Remainer" T shirt wears out. Or the pound is back to $2.80, or €1.66 (from memory I think that was the exchange rate when the Euro was created).
 
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With this new 'deal' one assumes that there must be border checks on all goods and people going to and from NI on the mainland?
 
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