Another new Brexit thread

[Didsbury Dave]

Some titbits...

‘Bump into DUP MP Ian Paisley Jr. “What’s going to happen?” “I don’t know, not a clue.” “Johnson will betray you.” “Yes, the English always betray the Irish, don’t they.” @DenisMacshane

Not a happy bunny

If that thick headed piece of Brexit shit is unhappy, then I’m happy.

 

[1.618034]

Fat ****.

 

[George Hannah]

Hmmm - China - America - the EU - I am sure the UK will hold its own..............not

"Singapore on Thames" they are quaking in their boots even before it opens for business

 

[mcfc1632]

What, you mean Brexit doesn't necessarily mean Brexit? And aren't the EU in the process of caving in faced with the prospect of no deal?

I think that you will find that the prediction was, accurately, that we will not see 'movement' from the EU unless an until they face the prospect of a viable walk-away option and the political will to use it

And indeed the EU have moved when faced with No-Deal - so chalk that as one to the Leavers

'Caving in' is not something that I have seen Leavers suggest - that must be your invention

 

[bluethrunthru]

"Singapore on Thames" they are quaking in their boots even before it opens for business

Think about it - trade deals depend on "whats in it for you". Why would China /America/EU - markets of hundreds of millions consumers allow the UK unfettered access to their markets in exchange for access to 60m people...............

 

[mcfc1632]

“With the departure of Great Britain, a potential competitor will of course emerge for us.
That is to say, in addition to China and the United States of America, there will be Great Britain as well.”
Angela Merkel

No subtlety there - the lines are being drawn.

Yep - we do need a clean break - free of all controls by the EU to hamstring our economic and fiscal policies

 

[journolud]

I think that you will find that the prediction was, accurately, that we will not see 'movement' from the EU unless an until they face the prospect of a viable walk-away option and the political will to use it

'Caving in' is not something that I have seen Leavers suggest - that must be your invention

Ah don't worry I'm just a remainer going through the death throes. I can't wait to see the details of the deal being thrashed out to see who has moved the most. I'm sure bojo is taking no shit.

 

[1.618034]

What, you mean Brexit doesn't necessarily mean Brexit? And aren't the EU in the process of caving in faced with the prospect of no deal?

Any minute now. You just watch!

Got 'em just where we want 'em.

 

[Ban-jani]

Hmmm - China - America - the EU - I am sure the UK will hold its own..............not

I think some people genuinely think as soon as we leave we’re getting all the colonies back.

I’m not saying George thinks that, more some idiots in the general public.

 

[Coatigan]

Will he get a deal, will it be a good one, how much will we need to pay, will he get it done in time.. The transfer window really has gone downhill!

 

[mcfc1632]

Ah don't worry I'm just a remainer going through the death throes. I can't wait to see the details of the deal being thrashed out to see who has moved the most. I'm sure bojo is taking no shit.

Let me remind you...……….​

I think that you will find that the prediction was, accurately, that we will not see 'movement' from the EU unless an until they face the prospect of a viable walk-away option and the political will to use it

And indeed the EU have moved when faced with No-Deal - so chalk that as one to the Leavers

'Caving in' is not something that I have seen Leavers suggest - that must be your invention

Movment is what was predicted when Remainers on here were saying there would be none - well saying does not really cover the level of exultation displayed on here.

So - yep

The Leavers were correct and have been consistently for 3 years - although not really expecting any Remainers to man-up and accept that

LOL - so now the goalpost change to 'who has moved the most'.

Remainers - what are they like.....​

 

[George Hannah]

The game is afoot - not - right now looking at Barclay's face as he leaves Luxembourg, it looks like no deal tonight, tomorrow or ever.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Will he get a deal, will it be a good one, how much will we need to pay, will he get it done in time.. The transfer window really has gone downhill!

Maybe
No
Depends on how desperate Johnson is to conclude a deal
Almost certainly not, but take note of the answer directly above

 

[mcfc1632]

Think about it - trade deals depend on "whats in it for you". Why would China /America/EU - markets of hundreds of millions consumers allow the UK unfettered access to their markets in exchange for access to 60m people...............

Loving your use of 'unfettered'

 

[journolud]

Let me remind you...……….​

Movment is what was predicted when Remainers on here were saying there would be none - well saying does not really cover the level of exultation displayed on here.

So - yep

The Leavers were correct and have been consistently for 3 years - although not really expecting any Remainers to man-up and accept that

LOL - so now the goalpost change to 'who has moved the most'.

Remainers - what are they like.....​

Thanks for that reminder of what you said about 10-15 minutes ago I’d forgotten about it

 

[Ban-jani]

Let me remind you...……….​

Movment is what was predicted when Remainers on here were saying there would be none - well saying does not really cover the level of exultation displayed on here

So - yep

The Leavers were correct and have been consistently for 3 years - although not really expecting any Remainers to man-up and accept that

It’s absolutely laughable you continue to trot this line out.

1. The initial details of the deal are of a proposal the EU already offered but May said she couldn’t go for, as it compromised the DUP’s wishes

2. Johnson’s plan A was rejected and left him desperate

3. The Benn Act means that the threat of no deal is basically zero, as it needs to get through Parliament first

4. No deal was never a threat, Barnier called Raab’s bluff on it 18 months - 2 years ago

All that has happened is that Johnson has picked one of the 15 or so options the EU gave, as an agreement, way back in 2016.

Furthermore, the “good will” and “none issue” you said about the Irish border have made it a full house of things you’ve been incorrect about.

 

[meltonblue]

If it is a customs border in the Irish Sea then I can’t see it getting through parliament, I’m not sure it will get better conservative support than Mays did (I assume she’ll vote against it...)

I can’t believe that all of this and the amount of money wasted on no deal planning in order to keep it as a negotiating tactic has led to Johnson negotiating exactly what was on offer two years ago. Well, I can, but that is just staggering ineptitude if that’s the case.

 

[1.618034]

Will he get a deal, will it be a good one, how much will we need to pay, will he get it done in time.. The transfer window really has gone downhill!

No, we already have one as a member, same as now, done in an afternoon.. Waiting for someone to wave a dildo in the background of Laura Kuenssberg reporting from Parliament Square.

 

[journolud]

Well I’m off to sleep now, I expect it will be all sunny uplands by the time I wake up. Or something like that.

 

[bluethrunthru]

If it is a customs border in the Irish Sea then I can’t see it getting through parliament, I’m not sure it will get better conservative support than Mays did (I assume she’ll vote against it...)

I can’t believe that all of this and the amount of money wasted on no deal planning in order to keep it as a negotiating tactic has led to Johnson negotiating exactly what was on offer two years ago. Well, I can, but that is just staggering ineptitude if that’s the case.

and yet Tories and Leavers held him up as the great blond hope the one who was going to get Brexit done..............they didn't factor in his stupidity - Cummings arrogance and the awareness of Parliament to use ...errrr...the law.