Another new Brexit thread

[George Hannah]

Can Sturgeon and co see the long game and think smart on this?

After Brexit, in the long game, or even the short one, she is isn't there and neither is the SNP lol

 

[1.618034]

I dont do that shit im afraid.

Neither do I.

Ah well.

 

[blueinsa]

After Brexit, in the long game, or even the short one, she is isn't there and neither is the SNP lol

Agree which is why i put that theory out.

Its last chance for them imo and it helps the government.

 

[Ban-jani]

Tories and Labour and possibly the DUP still imo.

Every Tory will probably vote for it so let’s be generous and say 288 votes there.

They still need 37 from somewhere.

I genuinely can’t see them getting that. The DUP is only 10.

They may will need half of the 35 independents and 20+ Labour MPs.

 

[Coatigan]

After Brexit, in the long game, or even the short one, she is isn't there and neither is the SNP lol

Chances are, neither is the union either tbf.

 

[Gabriel]

After Brexit, in the long game, or even the short one, she is isn't there and neither is the SNP lol

That might be your earnest desire, but I sense you misjudge the strength of feeling and support for independence.

 

[blueinsa]

Every Tory will probably vote for it so let’s be generous and say 288 votes there.

They still need 37 from somewhere.

I genuinely can’t see them getting that. The DUP is only 10.

They may will need half of the 35 independents and 20+ Labour MPs.

I genuinely think they might have that number in Labour i really do.

So many cant abide Corbyn and they represent leave areas.

 

[Coatigan]

SNP to suggest to the government that support for the deal would be given with a guarantee of a second indy ref next year and a win guaranteeing a similar deal to the Northern Irish?

Independence with the best of both worlds trade if they gain EU citizenship?

Can they see long term and play the political game or is it out and out anti Tory and anti Westminster regardless for them?

i'd take that. Particularly the deal like n.I.

Might need a border though.

 

[Coatigan]

Every Tory will probably vote for it so let’s be generous and say 288 votes there.

They still need 37 from somewhere.

I genuinely can’t see them getting that. The DUP is only 10.

They may will need half of the 35 independents and 20+ Labour MPs.

25 of the 35 independents are tories though. Whip removed, but still tories

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

I genuinely think they might have that number in Labour i really do.

So many cant abide Corbyn and they represent leave areas.

I hope so, however they will all be plotting as we speak

 

[blueparrot]

Every Tory will probably vote for it so let’s be generous and say 288 votes there.

They still need 37 from somewhere.

I genuinely can’t see them getting that. The DUP is only 10.

They may will need half of the 35 independents and 20+ Labour MPs.

Think most of the expelled tories will vote for it, will all the ERG if DUP say no ? Who knows I know some said they would follow the DUP lead. Think it will come down to how many labour vote for it 20+ seems a bit high to me. Very tight either way.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

SNP have said no
DUP have said no
Labour have said no
LibDems have said no

Where are the votes coming from?

They need to grow up and stop their student union politics. Just as the Farages of this world are having to swallow a few compromises so should they. Their silly games to stop brexit entirely could very well push us into an unintended no deal.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Think most of the expelled tories will vote for it, will all the ERG if DUP say no ? Who knows I know some said they would follow the DUP lead. Think it will come down to how many labour vote for it 20+ seems a bit high to me. Very tight either way.

Surely the erg will vote for it. Ffs

 

[Gabriel]

Every Tory will probably vote for it so let’s be generous and say 288 votes there.

They still need 37 from somewhere.

I genuinely can’t see them getting that. The DUP is only 10.

They may will need half of the 35 independents and 20+ Labour MPs.

Soames has apparently said he'll vote for it and so too will other 'dissident' Conservatives.

Find it perturbing just how many politicians are prepared to state they will vote for or against something when they have not read what it is. Speaks volumes about the quality of mind in the House.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

You are on the Tory election campaign staff and i claim my £5.

Tory K et al will parroting that from the rooftops to protect their beloved Bojo.

Haha, I'm not a Tory, but I am able to spot a dud!

 

[Ban-jani]

I genuinely think they might have that number in Labour i really do.

So many cant abide Corbyn and they represent leave areas.

We’ll find out Saturday I suppose.

It’s a big ask to get the votes still.

 

[Ban-jani]

25 of the 35 independents are tories though. Whip removed, but still tories

Good point and Johnson may offer an olive branch.

 

[blueparrot]

Surely the erg will vote for it. Ffs

They might but some will have to go back on their word that they would only vote if it was acceptable to the DUP. Plus its not in reality anything like the deal they wanted when they were voting down Mays deal.

 

[hgblue]

Really pleased with how this has panned out, I knew Boris was the man ;). Realistically the best deal we could have hoped for. Just need the DUP to wake up and smell the coffee and we’re there. Failing that, Boris pisses the election when it comes.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Plot twist!

Lol