Liverpool thread 2019/20

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Drubas said:
Media is completely ignoring the context.

The League Cup game is scheduled for the 17th of December. Liverpool are already Scheduled to play in the FIFA world cup of clubs the 18th. Klopp was asked about the situation and now people are doing their own little spin on the answer.
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Spin? These are direct quotes, what 'spin' would you put on them?

"If they don’t find a place for us, an appropriate place, not 3am on Christmas Day, then we don’t play."

"If they don’t find a proper date for us, then we cannot play the next round and whoever is our opponent will go through, or Arsenal plays—I cannot change that."
 
Centurions said:
Spin? These are direct quotes, what 'spin' would you put on them?

"If they don’t find a place for us, an appropriate place, not 3am on Christmas Day, then we don’t play."

"If they don’t find a proper date for us, then we cannot play the next round and whoever is our opponent will go through, or Arsenal plays—I cannot change that."
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The quotes are quite telling, to be fair, as if we were in the same position we would likely just tell the FA we will play but field our EDS or U18 team.

But Klopp knows his squad is so shallow—even with a fraction of the injuries we have sustained—even that response is very risky, so it is preferred to withdraw entirely.

Based on their recent performances, and many of his recent comments, I think he knows they are on a knife’s edge at the moment.
 
Centurions said:
Spin? These are direct quotes, what 'spin' would you put on them?

"If they don’t find a place for us, an appropriate place, not 3am on Christmas Day, then we don’t play."

"If they don’t find a proper date for us, then we cannot play the next round and whoever is our opponent will go through, or Arsenal plays—I cannot change that."
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Liverpool play Leicester the 26th. So a game 3am on Christmas day would not really be possible either.
 
Drubas said:
Liverpool play Leicester the 26th. So a game 3am on Christmas day would not really be possible either.
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You seemed to have forgotten to actually answer the question, what spin is being applied to these direct quotes? Is he claiming they won't play it preferring the money on offer from a pointless competition in the middle east or not?
 
To be fair to Klopp, he did his best to get dumped out of the cup. His boys couldn't believe their luck when the found how shite Arsenal were and just went for it. He should just play the kids in the next round and sod off to where ever it is.
 
Here's what Jurgen Klopp said on Liverpool's Carabao Cup quarter-final after they won a thrilling tie with Arsenal.

"If they don't find a place for us, an appropriate place, not 3am on Christmas Day, then we don't play it," said Klopp.

"You have to think about these things. If you have a fixture list where one team cannot be part of all the games, then you have to think about it. Hopefully it starts at one point, hopefully it starts now.

"We will not be the victim of this problem. We played [on Wednesday] and we wanted to win. If they don't find a proper date for us then we cannot play the next round and whoever is our opponent will go through - or Arsenal will play it. I cannot change that."
Mard arse twat ... as usual !!
We play 3 games over a 6 day period !!
 
He's not the first manager to face that problem, nor will he be the last. Pellegrini played the kids famously a few years back in the cup, we got beat, to focus on other priorities. All part of his job description. Manage, not moan.

Unless FIFA requirements are for first team players to go to their pointless little competition, I don't see his problem. Rotate, send the kids, it's a squad game nowadays and the best squad will be known come May.

Champions have to play more games, yes it's stupid given the limitations of the human body even in today's age of modern medicines and diet, but they're not the only team facing 50 or 60 games in 10 months. But they are certainly the only team asking for special treatment. Maybe Mr Parry can have a word or they can ask the other teams at the world club championship to cede the title to them beforehand, based on history.
 
Asa's left peg said:
To be fair to Klopp, he did his best to get dumped out of the cup. His boys couldn't believe their luck when the found how shite Arsenal were and just went for it. He should just play the kids in the next round and sod off to where ever it is.
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and he put out a eligible player in a previous round, but the EFL didn't have the balls to chuck them out.
 
Asa's left peg said:
To be fair to Klopp, he did his best to get dumped out of the cup. His boys couldn't believe their luck when the found how shite Arsenal were and just went for it. He should just play the kids in the next round and sod off to where ever it is.
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Makes you wonder if they played an illegible player deliberately hoping to be thrown out on a technicality.
 
oakiecokie said:
Here's what Jurgen Klopp said on Liverpool's Carabao Cup quarter-final after they won a thrilling tie with Arsenal.

"If they don't find a place for us, an appropriate place, not 3am on Christmas Day, then we don't play it," said Klopp.

"You have to think about these things. If you have a fixture list where one team cannot be part of all the games, then you have to think about it. Hopefully it starts at one point, hopefully it starts now.

"We will not be the victim of this problem. We played [on Wednesday] and we wanted to win. If they don't find a proper date for us then we cannot play the next round and whoever is our opponent will go through - or Arsenal will play it. I cannot change that."
Mard arse twat ... as usual !!
We play 3 games over a 6 day period !!
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He conveniently forgets they play that many games because his club accepted an invitation to play in a pointless cup in the middle east, for an association which has no bearing on the competitions they play in normally. He also talks about it being good they are looking at the fixtures now, Liverpool knew the likely hood of a fixture clash in August.
 
Anybody else found it hilarious last night to hear them singing about Liverpool being top of the league after just 10 games and in a different competition? It’s the kind of stuff you’d hear from a newly promoted team punching above their weight not the self appointed European royalty club with such illustrious ‘istree. If it was any other club, I would have put it down to a somewhat amusing self parody.
 
blueinsa said:
EFL are going to move the game for them, bless.
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I don't have an issue with it being moved as long as there is no knock on with our fixtures...it could even cause issues in January if they beat Villa & have to play us in the semi.

We however, were told to fuck off re the Chelsea cup game.
 
So Klopp complaining that they can`t comptete in the League Cup because of fixture congestion.Below is their timetable for fixtures as per Beebs site :

Liverpool's fixture pile-up
* Premier League games unless stated
4 December Everton (h)
7 December Bournemouth (a)
10 December Salzburg (a) Champions League
14 December Watford (h)
16 December Week of League Cup quarter-finals
18 December TBC (Qatar) Club World Cup
21 December TBC (Qatar) Club World Cup
26 December Leicester City (a)
29 December Wolves (h)
2 January Sheffield United (h)
6 January Week of League Cup semi-final first-leg ties
11 January Tottenham (a)
19 January Manchester United (h)

So 12 games.
Guess what ?
Yep City 11 games within the same period.Last season we also had a long fixture list but these fuckers want sympathy.Now theres a fucking surprise.
 
oakiecokie said:
So Klopp complaining that they can`t comptete in the League Cup because of fixture congestion.Below is their timetable for fixtures as per Beebs site :

Liverpool's fixture pile-up
* Premier League games unless stated
4 December Everton (h)
7 December Bournemouth (a)
10 December Salzburg (a) Champions League
14 December Watford (h)
16 December Week of League Cup quarter-finals
18 December TBC (Qatar) Club World Cup
21 December TBC (Qatar) Club World Cup
26 December Leicester City (a)
29 December Wolves (h)
2 January Sheffield United (h)
6 January Week of League Cup semi-final first-leg ties
11 January Tottenham (a)
19 January Manchester United (h)

So 12 games.
Guess what ?
Yep City 11 games within the same period.Last season we also had a long fixture list but these fuckers want sympathy.Now theres a fucking surprise.
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Also, They probably won't need to go full strength in the club world Cup despite the money involved, they could be knocked out in first game as well as the the league Cup
 
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