General Election - December 12th, 2019

[sd92]

I never said i'd "prefer" the standards, I said i'd prefer clean US chlorinated washed chicken over regulation breaching, high street "standard" UK takeaway chicken.

Surely you’d prefer that the stuff sold in the UK is up ti the standards that it should be rather than lowering it to accept this US stuff?

If high street shoos are selling substandard meat they should be reported and held to standard.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

https://fullfact.org/europe/does-eu-say-its-safe-eat-chicken-rinsed-chlorine/

A good fact check article on the EU and chlorinated chicken relationship

 

[Metal Biker]

Surely you’d prefer that the stuff sold in the UK is up ti the standards that it should be rather than lowering it to accept this US stuff?

If high street shoos are selling substandard meat they should be reported and held to standard.

No, I wouldn't. Because i'd know for certain the American chicken was clean and free of any bacteria. If anything I feel we should be raising our standards to match theirs.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Six meetings 541 page document, sounds like serious discussions to me.
What point are you making about it being a year old?

it’s old

 

[Len Rum]

The Chief Rabbi is a politician now, of his own choosing, he's made a number of outrageous, unsubstantiated claims and smeared a party that has over 500,000 members.

Given this, it is a testimony to just how unfounded his bullshit is, that he has received so little blowback, then again he knew this in advance of his article. If the Labour party was what he claims it is, his words would have placed the Jewish community in a difficult position, the fact that it hasn't, is the truth that dare not speak its name.

Jeremy Corbyn is not anti-Semitic, the Labour party is not anti-Semitic, it does not have a history of anti-Semitism and it does not have any anti-Semitic policies, it does however have a policy of supporting a Palestinian homeland.

The Chief Rabbi knows all this..... and then he played his hand.

Fazzakerley.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Due to be shown free to air on Friday 13th could be too late

You might be right.

 

[Len Rum]

it’s old

Meaning it's true, not true, true then but not now?

 

[sd92]

Change the rhetoric here having the meaning "inform and educate" people about the truth surrounding chlorinated washed chicken?

You're going completely off topic now. Chlorinated washed chicken is not hazardouz to health. People objecting to it do so on the claim that it IS hazardous to people's health, and not the actual reason it was banned by the EU.

You simply cannot tell what condition the meat was in before it was washed, that's it. It could have been absolutely clean and meeting the EU's standards, or it might not. But the act of washing removes all doubt to allow it to meet standards which most likely were met, but we'd never know. This isn't about "distrusting companies", it's again making out the US to be corrupt and evil in their everyday practices.

I see.

So the issue is we don’t know what standard it was up to prior to being washed?

Why would it need to be washed if it was already up to standard. Is there an argument behind that?

 

[Ban-jani]

The Jewish community has historically voted Tory, there are reasons for this but I'll not bore you with them.

Come on then, tell us why this is really a pro-Tory scheme to ensure the left are kept out?

 

[sd92]

No, I wouldn't. Because i'd know for certain the American chicken was clean and free of any bacteria. If anything I feel we should be raising our standards to match theirs.

But we had just established that our standards were better than theirs?

If they are not then I’d agree with you.

 

[Metal Biker]

I see.

So the issue is we don’t know what standard it was up to prior to being washed?

Why would it need to be washed if it was already up to standard. Is there an argument behind that?

That's the precise reason why the EU banned it.

The Americans wash all chicken to kill ANY present bacteria, regardless of it's condition. It could have been free-range, well kept, slaughtered ethically and hygenically, it would still get washed. Once it's washed, there is no telling what condition it might have been in as the chlorine does such a thourough and effective job at making it safe to consume.

You don't trust and doubt US businesses about the standards of the meat before chlorination. I don't. That's all it boils down to.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Meaning it's true, not true, true then but not now?

it means it’s old news , from a time under a previous prime minister, released more like rehashed today to try and cover up corbyns car crash interview last night and change the narrative from corbyns incompetence and failure to apologise for his anti Semitic party.

 

[sd92]

That's the precise reason why the EU banned it.

The Americans wash all chicken to kill ANY present bacteria, regardless of it's condition. It could have been free-range, well kept, slaughtered ethically and hygenically, it would still get washed. Once it's washed, there is no telling what condition it might have been in as the chlorine does such a thourough and effective job at making it safe to consume.

You don't trust and doubt US businesses about the standards of the meat before chlorination. I don't. That's all it boils down to.

That’s fair enough then. We can agree to disagree.

What about them wanting to strip the health warnings on food labels?

 

[Metal Biker]

But we had just established that our standards were better than theirs?

If they are not then I’d agree with you.

Oh give me strength...

I'm talking about the quality of the meat in comparison to high street standards, which are poor.

 

[Metal Biker]

That’s fair enough then. We can agree to disagree.

What about them wanting to strip the health warnings on food labels?

I'm sure the FDA might have something to say about that.

 

[sd92]

Oh give me strength...

I'm talking about the quality of the meat in comparison to high street standards, which are poor.

Are you suggesting that high street standards are different to say supermarket or butcher standards?

 

[sd92]

I'm sure the FDA might have something to say about that.

Of course they will.

And america may well say ‘that’s yer lot, take it or leave it’
And then we’d have no trade deal, presuming a no deal brexit

 

[Len Rum]

Laura Kuenssberg -No government ministers appear to have been present apart from Liam Fox.
That of course would be Liam Fox the Secretary of State for International Trade.
BBC at it again.

 

[Len Rum]

it means it’s old news , from a time under a previous prime minister, released more like rehashed today to try and cover up corbyns car crash interview last night and change the narrative from corbyns incompetence and failure to apologise for his anti Semitic party.

But is it still true?

 

[Metal Biker]

Are you suggesting that high street standards are different to say supermarket or butcher standards?

You can't be for real.

You're still on this? I'm talking about shitty takeaway chicken being accepted but clean US chlorinated washed chicken being regarded as unhealthy.