General Election - December 12th, 2019

[Chippy_boy]

Again. The last three years of negotiations over the WA are a matter of record not opinion. If you wish to dispute the record then please do so.

What I wish to dispute, Bullshit Bob, is you seeking to claim as fact, matters which are only your opinion. It pisses me off to be honest. There are certain facts absolutely and then there are speculations about what might happen going forward. If you stop trying to claim some of your speculations as facts, I would not have to keep repeating, IN YOUR OPINION.

 

[mcfc1632]

The narrative around chlorinated chicken certainly does need to be changed.

People still think you'd be ingesting harmful chemicals, when nothing could be further from the truth. For example;

"In 2005 the European Food Safety Authority said that "exposure to chlorite residues arising from treated poultry carcasses would be of no safety concern". Chlorine-rinsed bagged salads are common in the UK and other countries in the EU."

The issue is about the standards which required the chlorine wash, but it's common practice in the US even if the standards are exceptionally high. I'd sooner trust and have fewer health concerns about US chlorinated chicken than the stuff sold on the UK high street.

Oh FFS @Mëtal Bikër did you not think before posting that!!!

Now we will have countless posts bemoaning chlorinated lettuce

By the end of the week Brexit and the Tories will have lost the vegetarian vote

 

[Chippy_boy]

Oh FFS @Mëtal Bikër did you not think before posting that!!!

Now we will have countless posts bemoaning chlorinated lettuce

By the end of the week Brexit and the Tories will have lost the vegetarian vote

3m young vegans have registered only this week.

 

[BlueAnorak]

'Cholinated' would scare the shit out of me 'cos I don't know what it means.

Don't buy bagged salads from your local supermarket then. (Hint - they're washed in Chorinated water.)

 

[Ban-jani]

3m young vegans have registered only this week.

Virgins every one of them.

 

[inbetween]

Fuck me! You think this is a thing!

Errr yes?

International relations.

(1)A person who is or has been a Crown servant or government contractor is guilty of an offence if without lawful authority he makes a damaging disclosure of—

(a)any information, document or other article relating to international relations;

 

[BobKowalski]

What I wish to dispute, Bob is you seeking to claim as fact, matters which are only your opinion. It pisses me off to be honest. There are certain facts absolutely and then there are speculations about what might happen going forward. If you stop trying to claim some of your speculations as facts, I would not have to keep repeating, IN YOUR OPINION.

They are facts. The US and EU are much bigger economies (fact) and as such dictate terms to smaller economies (fact). The EU walked away with its three principal objectives and secondary objectives such as GI’s met in the WA. Again fact.

What is my opinion is that this pattern is set to be repeated as we lash ourselves to unrealistic timeframes and set pre conditions that neither the US nor the EU will accept means there is a huge climbdown (or two) looming in our future. Or as I prefer to call it, stating the bleeding obvious.

 

[blueeeee]

We could show the horrific realities of any empire or country on its smaller neighbours, what the end game seems to be is marginalising white British children now we've got a well stocked diverse peanut gallery ready to have a go at them because their ancestors might or might not have been bad. It's a poorly aimed blame game wrapped in identity politics and is racially divisive.

Let's be frank about this when a teacher explains that it's "Your" ancestors it'll be the indigenous population they are pointing a finger at.

i don’t think it’s racially divisive teaching white British children a balanced account of their countries history. It would be a form of brainwashing to just teach children the good and completely ignore the bad.

 

[Chippy_boy]

They are facts. The US and EU are much bigger economies (fact) and as such dictate terms to smaller economies (fact). The EU walked away with its three principal objectives and secondary objectives such as GI’s met in the WA. Again fact.

What is my opinion is that this pattern is set to be repeated as we lash ourselves to unrealistic timeframes and set pre conditions that neither the US nor the EU will accept means there is a huge climbdown (or two) looming in our future. Or as I prefer to call it, stating the bleeding obvious.

Much opinion in there, masquerading as fact, yet again. Never mind BB, knock yourself out.

 

[George Hannah]

What about the Youth in Asia solution, then...?

you a fan of Dr Harold?

 

[Chippy_boy]

Quote:

The question for Labour: why are you sticking with Jeremy Corbyn?

... there is one common if, for some, uncomfortable premise. It is the constant factor in the calculus run by all the political parties and by the warring factions within them. Put simply, it is the fact that vast swathes of the electorate are unprecedentedly hostile to the idea of making Jeremy Corbyn their prime minister.

The Labour leader has the lowest poll numbers of any leader of the opposition since records began. His net satisfaction rating is minus 60, outstripping the previous negative record held since 1982 by Michael Foot. He is less popular than Boris Johnson among both men and women, in every socioeconomic category, whether richer or poorer, in London and Scotland as well as the Midlands and Wales and, remarkably, in every age group.

So, good people of the forum, I ask you, which lying Tory rag is the above quote taken from? The Daily Mail perchance? What about the Torygraph? Maybe the BBC with their covert Tory activists distorting the truth (notwithstanding the opposite is true of the BBC)?

No, my friends, The Guardian. Supporter of fine Labour principles since records began. And a huge supporter of the scruffy, bum fluff-bearded tosser, obviously.

Jeremy Corbyn: Saviour of the Conservatives, Deliverer of Brexit. Thank-you Jerermy for your outstanding contribution to 5 more years of Conservative government.

 

[George Hannah]

Food prices in Australia are higher than the U.K. Quality and choice is better as well.

As are average incomes and the their purchasing power - significantly so. Cappuchinos are a bit cheaper it seems.

 

[BlueAnorak]

The tearing to pieces of the Reddit posted documents and Labour's distortion of the content begins. Corbyn's popularity and Labour's reputation will tank even further.

 

[BLUEMATT23]

Had a labour leaflet through the door today.
Its quite unbelievable really.
Saying we will get the final vote on Brexit
Wasnt that what we did in 2016?
Here is a party that isn't standing by a democratic decision made by the public.
Labour wont get my vote.

 

[Coatigan]

People will, because (And I overheard this from a young voter. Labour shouldnt be so cock a hoop about high registration..) "Boris is Bantz!"

That's how Shitgibbon pissed it.

To be fair, that has to be the most intelligent and mature reason i've heard yet for voting for him/the tories.

 

[Coatigan]

You don't teach that something was bad.

You accurately teach the events that happened and allow the student to make up their own minds.

Agree. you don't omit it either. i think this is being read into a lot more than needed tbh.

 

[hgblue]

Tory boys gone very quiet on here since news broke of BoJo's (chlorinated) chicken act.

Too busy laughing at Corbyn and now Gardiner getting taken down by Andrew Neil for their bullshit and blatant lies.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

3m young vegans have registered only this week.

yeah and great news they can vote twice , once at uni and once at home. But that’s ok and totally legal because they vote labour.

 

[Coatigan]

We could show the horrific realities of any empire or country on its smaller neighbours, what the end game seems to be is marginalising white British children now we've got a well stocked diverse peanut gallery ready to have a go at them because their ancestors might or might not have been bad. It's a poorly aimed blame game wrapped in identity politics and is racially divisive.

Let's be frank about this when a teacher explains that it's "Your" ancestors it'll be the indigenous population they are pointing a finger at.

We could, and should, imho.

Surely the end game is to teach what happened, in the hope it reduces the likelyhood of it happening again (obviously i dont mean colonialism, but any type of injustice). I really don't get what the fuss is, one way or the other, it is neither a revolutionary exciting change nor is it a crazy ott idea. I have no issue with teaching being expanded, to include more if it was missing before. i don't see why anyone would.

 

[BobKowalski]

As are average incomes and the their purchasing power - significantly so. Cappuchinos are a bit cheaper it seems.

Good for coffee drinkers. However prices, quality and choice are better in the U.K. as my Australian cousins never cease pointing out when they visit. They positively faint with excitement when at the deli counter in Tescos.

I find Germany is not well served when it comes to choice either.

I guess culture and geography inform a large part of this in the two examples above. That and we as a nation have a very non discriminatory, almost magpie, attitude to cuisine. If we like it we’ll eat it and not worry about where or who it came from.